Can't comprehend this one

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by deecee

This is a tough one. in most cases i do not think that THIS specific word is all that bad. either way I would probably ask my assignor or local association how they would want THIS one handled. I personally would not call this (depends on the level of course - sportsmanship is a sliding scale to some degree and varies by age and level) and it is NOT automatic.

When the whole gym hears it it is an automatic WHACK at all levels (youth, jr. H.S., H.S., and college).

MTD, Sr.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

When the whole gym hears it it is an automatic WHACK at all levels (youth, jr. H.S., H.S., and college).

MTD, Sr.

Mark, is this your personal feeling on the subject or is this the general consensus?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by deecee

Mark, is this your personal feeling on the subject or is this the general consensus?

I would be greatly disappointed in any official who would have a problem in charging a player with a TF in this circumstance. This is even a TF in Special Olympics.

MTD, Sr.

[rsl]

OK, I see everyone's point about this word not being automatic, and I agree.

However, this is a church sponsored rec league- I really had no choice. The league specifically prohibits profanity in the league charter.

However, I think I would have called this in a HS game as well, based on volume and timing. It was just too loud and at that point in time every eye in the gym was on him.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rsl

However, this is a church sponsored league.

Now, with more information in hand, it's an automatic automatic.

[Pantherdreams]

in this situation automatic whack seems imminent.

Was wondering about if a kid were to go down with an injury (sprained ankle, broken finger) and cursed loudly in pain. Would the association/league expect you to T up that kid. That seems rough.

[rsl]

Originally Posted by Pantherdreams

Was wondering about if a kid were to go down with an injury (sprained ankle, broken finger) and cursed loudly in pain. Would the association/league expect you to T up that kid. That seems rough.

Actually happened in the same game. My partner is standing next to the downed player (sprained ankle) while I get the coach. Afterwards my partner tells me there may have been an F word heard only by him and a teammate of the downed player.

We didn't hear anything at all. That's my story and I'm sticking with it.

[jeffpea]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

I would be greatly disappointed in any official who would have a problem in charging a player with a TF in this circumstance. This is even a TF in Special Olympics.

MTD, Sr.

MTD - consider yourself disappointed in me...'cause I'm not calling that in a HS and definitely not in a college game.

imho an official has to ask himself/herself this question: "who was the unsportsman-like conduct directed towards?" certainly not an official, or opposing player, or coach, or fan...therefore, i'm not calling that...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

An official has to ask himself/herself this question: "who was the unsportsmanlike conduct directed towards?" certainly not an official, or opposing player, or coach, or fan...therefore, I'm not calling that...

High school game. I kind'a agree, but for me it would come down to just how loud it was, and just how loud the crowd was. Not so loud in a crowded, loud, gym. Pass. Really loud in a gym with a few quiet people. Technical.

Even in the first case, I wouldn't ignore it, but would say a few words to the player discouraging him from doing it again.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by jeffpea

MTD - consider yourself disappointed in me...'cause I'm not calling that in a HS and definitely not in a college game.

imho an official has to ask himself/herself this question: "who was the unsportsman-like conduct directed towards?" certainly not an official, or opposing player, or coach, or fan...therefore, i'm not calling that...

Replace the profanity with the player slamming the ball down in frustration, whiffing on the "catch" as the ball comes up off the ground and it ends up 15 feet above the floor..........


We're shooting fouls shots in each situation.

[APG]

Originally Posted by asdf

Replace the profanity with the player slamming the ball down in frustration, whiffing on the "catch" as the ball comes up off the ground and it ends up 15 feet above the floor..........


We're shooting fouls shots in each situation.

That very situation isn't an automatic for everyone. I remember there was a huge, long thread discussing this after the Kansas vs. Memphis National Championship game where they passed on a technical in a situation very similar to this.

[asdf]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

That very situation isn't an automatic for everyone. I remember there was a huge, long thread discussing this after the Kansas vs. Memphis National Championship game where they passed on a technical in a situation very similar to this.

Just because they passed on it does not mean they were correct.

They got reamed for it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by asdf

Replace the profanity with the player slamming the ball down in frustration, whiffing on the "catch" as the ball comes up off the ground and it ends up 15 feet above the floor..........


We're shooting fouls shots in each situation.

Who is we? Do not speak for me on this one.

Peace

[asdf]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

Who is we? Do not speak for me on this one.

Peace

We, as in the crew that I am working with that night.

I do not speak for anyone other than myself.

[deecee]

Originally Posted by asdf

Replace the profanity with the player slamming the ball down in frustration, whiffing on the "catch" as the ball comes up off the ground and it ends up 15 feet above the floor..........


We're shooting fouls shots in each situation.

really? we are? why do you say so?