When is the shot over?

[Coach Bill]

NFHS rules. Our guy goes to close out a shooter shooting a jump shot, and then boxes him out pretty aggressively AFTER the shooter landed on the floor. He knocked the guy down. I agreed with the foul call (he displaced him), but they awarded him two shots. Was that correct? At what point in time is the shot over, and this type of foul would be "on the floor".

[Judtech]

This one would fall under have to see it. Several variables as to when the fould was committed and when feet hit the floor etc.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Judtech

Several variables as to when the foul was committed and when feet hit the floor etc.

Not "feet", foot.

[Judtech]

I would say I was using the 3rd person singular possessive, but let's be honest, I should have typed foot!!

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Judtech

I would say I was using the 3rd person singular possessive, but let's be honest, I should have typed foot!!

And you should type "to", not "too" in your signature.

Note the smiley face - just teasing. I'm sure there are guys here who would love to point out you're ending a sentence with a preposition, too. (note the correct use of "too")

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

And you should type "to", not "too" in your signature.

Note the smiley face - just teasing. I'm sure there are guys here who would love to point out you're ending a sentence with a preposition, too. (note the correct use of "too")

"Madame, that is a rule up with which I shall not put."

---attributed to Winston Churchill-----

Mark, as a former Chicagoan, we still say "where's it at" around here.

[Ref_in_Alberta]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Not "feet", foot.

2 feet under FIBA rules.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Ref_in_Alberta

2 feet under FIBA rules.

2 feet? Is that after the metric conversion?

[Coach Bill]

Curious. What about ncaa and NBA? one or two feet?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Judtech

This one would fall under have to see it. Several variables as to when the fould was committed and when feet hit the floor etc.

The only thing that matters is when the player touched the floor with relation to when the defender's contact began. That's it, no other variables matter.

[Judtech]

The variable I was talking about was when contact occured. Did the official think that the contact occured prior to the FOOT return? We don't even know if there was a double bonus involved. That is all. No great conspiracy on the 'variable'.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

NFHS rules. Our guy goes to close out a shooter shooting a jump shot, and then boxes him out pretty aggressively AFTER the shooter landed on the floor. He knocked the guy down. I agreed with the foul call (he displaced him), but they awarded him two shots. Was that correct? At what point in time is the shot over, and this type of foul would be "on the floor".

Being an airborne shooter ended when 1 foot of the airborne shooter touched the court, as per case book play 4.4.1.

If the foul occurred after the foot came down, it's not a foul in the act of shooting.

[A Pennsylvania Coach]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

The try ended when 1 foot of the airborne shooter touched the court, as per case book play 4.4.1.

That's when the try ended? You sure about that?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

That's when the try ended? You sure about that?

Good catch. That statement is wrong. I'll go back and correct it.

The "act of shooting" ends when 1 foot of an airborne shooter lands. The "try" ends when it's good, certain it's no good or the ball becomes dead.

They're separate and un-related acts and are considered as such, rules-wise.

[APG]

Originally Posted by Coach Bill

NFHS rules. Our guy goes to close out a shooter shooting a jump shot, and then boxes him out pretty aggressively AFTER the shooter landed on the floor. He knocked the guy down. I agreed with the foul call (he displaced him), but they awarded him two shots. Was that correct? At what point in time is the shot over, and this type of foul would be "on the floor".

In your situation, the player was no longer an airborne shooter. By rule the foul is a common foul and should be penalized accordingly.