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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 06:29pm
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NCAA Backcourt Violation?

Throwin by A1, ball in air, B1(with both feet in A's front court) tips ball , A2 goes in air from A's front court, gets control, and lands in backcourt.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 06:34pm
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Violation, and it's irrelevant where B1's feet are in this play. (assuming NCAA rule is the same as NFHS on this one)
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Would B1 at least have to have A's front court status?
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Would B1 at least have to have A's front court status?
No. B1's involvement is that the touch ends the throw-in, thereby excluding the exception that permits a player jumping from the frontcourt to catch a throw-in and land legally in the backcourt.
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Would B1 at least have to have A's front court status?
No. When A1 catches the ball, his FC status (due to having jumped from the FC) establishes both team control and FC status at the same moment. The exception written in the rules allows him to land in the BC, but only if his catch is the first touch of the throw in pass. Once B1 tips the pass, the throw-in exception no longer applies.
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No. B1's involvement is that the touch ends the throw-in, thereby excluding the exception that permits a player jumping from the backcourt to catch a throw-in and land legally in the frontcourt.
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Oh puh-lease. Like I've never made a mistake before.
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Oh puh-lease. Like I've never made a mistake before.
Sorry, my work day is almost over, and I was feeling a bit ornery.
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:44pm
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No. B1's involvement is that the touch ends the throw-in, thereby excluding the exception that permits a player jumping from the backcourt to catch a throw-in and land legally in the frontcourt.

The poster formerly known as rainmaker would agree with you!
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Old Mon Feb 22, 2010, 07:59pm
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Violation, and it's irrelevant where B1's feet are in this play. (assuming NCAA rule is the same as NFHS on this one)
Yes, violation under NCAA rules, at least according to my reading of 2010 NCAA Casebook A.R. 217(1). Sounds like the exact play in question.
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Yes, this is a back court violation.
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Is this different from NFHS?
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Is this different from NFHS?
No: (approximately) same rule, same exception for a throw-in, same ruling in this case.
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Yet if A1 has the throw-in...and A2 touches the throw-in, from A1, in the front-court...then muffs the ball into the backcourt...A2 can go into the backcourt and retrieve the ball with no backcourt violation.
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Old Tue Feb 23, 2010, 11:33am
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Yet if A1 has the throw-in...and A2 touches the throw-in, from A1, in the front-court...then muffs the ball into the backcourt...A2 can go into the backcourt and retrieve the ball with no backcourt violation.
That's what I thought.

But, in the OP it read if B1 (with both feet in A's front court) tips ball, A2 goes in air from A's front court, gets control, and lands in backcourt.

I did not think this would be B/C violation at the high school level.
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