Man, I have a lot to learn.....

[Kelvin green]

What I would tke away from this

1) you should ready to be a lead ref at every game. You either lead, follow or get out of the way.... f you want to excel you need to be able to lead.

Be prepare to be the lead ref all the time, You should know how to do a pregame. Pregames dont change much since guys have not worked with each other cover a lot of the same things.

2) Game management--- Game awareness are importatnt

[shavano]

Originally Posted by Kelvin green

What I would tke away from this

1) you should ready to be a lead ref at every game. You either lead, follow or get out of the way.... f you want to excel you need to be able to lead.

Be prepare to be the lead ref all the time, You should know how to do a pregame. Pregames dont change much since guys have not worked with each other cover a lot of the same things.

2) Game management--- Game awareness are importatnt

Good points, both. Thank you!

[mutantducky]

I'll sometimes check who is in foul trouble in the 4th. I don't like giving cheap fouls and the advantage is on a questionable that could go either way give it too a teammate. But there are problems with that. Star player with 4 fouls does a little grab and push to get a rebound. Minor foul but it allowed him to get the ball. Called a traveling call a few seconds after and it was but passing on a foul, albeit a cheap one helped his team.
in a different game I also fouled out a good player with a double foul when he and the defensive player were pushing each other in the post. Afterwards I thought I should have let it go. Good call in the first half but not in the last five minutes. It is a fine line to walk there so I suggest you don't go overboard about seeing who is in foul trouble because it just might change the way you call the game. You don't want to foul someone out with a cheap foul but if you have to so be it otherwise you could give a team an advantage.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

I'll sometimes check who is in foul trouble in the 4th. I don't like giving cheap fouls and the advantage is on a questionable that could go either way give it too a teammate. But there are problems with that. Star player with 4 fouls does a little grab and push to get a rebound. Minor foul but it allowed him to get the ball. Called a traveling call a few seconds after and it was but passing on a foul, albeit a cheap one helped his team.
in a different game I also fouled out a good player with a double foul when he and the defensive player were pushing each other in the post. Afterwards I thought I should have let it go. Good call in the first half but not in the last five minutes. It is a fine line to walk there so I suggest you don't go overboard about seeing who is in foul trouble because it just might change the way you call the game. You don't want to foul someone out with a cheap foul but if you have to so be it otherwise you could give a team an advantage.

You did all that yet you try not to go overboard?

[mutantducky]

that's what I've learned and not to repeat those mistakes. and I'm saying it can be good to know the foul situations because in the double foul case I should have passed on it. I didn't know the player had 4 fouls. In the one I passed on I did know he had 4. So goes both ways. Now maybe a check but I want to make sure no big change in how I'm calling the game.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by mutantducky

1) I don't like giving cheap fouls and the advantage is on a questionable that could go either way give it too a teammate.

2) Star player with 4 fouls does a little grab and push to get a rebound. Minor foul but it allowed him to get the ball.

3) Good call in the first half but not in the last five minutes.

1) Here's a better idea. Don't call cheap and/or questionable fouls in the first place and you won't have to worry about this.

2) How can it be a minor foul if it allowed him to get the ball? Methinks you really don't understand the concept of using advantage/disadvantage

3) Are you serious?

To sum up, you don't believe in advantage/disadvantage or consistency in calling a game, but you do believe in calling cheap, questionable fouls as long as you can give it to a teammate and not to a player with 4 fouls.

Great advice!

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