Drunken Referree

[fullor30]

Originally Posted by asdf

Classic, instead of answering why you would not tell the HC that you had a beer at lunch prior to his game, you try to insult me..... Weak.....


Then again....





Looks to me like you can't make up your mind.....

If it's no problem having a beer, why were you worried about the beer being on your breath?

Are you daft? Why would I tell anyone what I had for lunch?

Correct, there is no problem having a beer for lunch prior to a later game. The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

Why is that a problem for you to comprehend?


For the record, I rarely have an alcoholic drink at lunch as it makes me sleepy.

Question...........what's your time frame on having a beer prior to a game?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by fullor30

The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

And that is why both my local football and basketball officiating associations have the exact same rule. No drinking the day of a game.

One drink smells the same as ten. And it doesn't matter if you have 1/2 a beer, if someone smells alcohol on your breath and wants to complain about your officiating, they will tell everybody that you were drunk.

And unfortunately, some mouthwashes, medications and sprays can leave an alcohol smell also. That means that if we do have to investigate a drinking complaint, that has to to be taken into account too. The benefit of the doubt always goes to the official.

Having said that, if a situation came up where an official was injured, etc. and needed to be replaced, using a non-impaired official who maybe had a drink earlier would be fine as long as everybody involved was notified and had no problems with it, Ya gotta use a little common sense.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And unfortunately, some mouthwashes, medications and sprays can leave an alcohol smell also. That means that if we do have to investigate a drinking complaint, that has to to be taken into account too. The benefit of the doubt always goes to the official.

I ALWAYS use a Listerine Strip before each game.

While I try to avoid getting up close and personal with folks, sometimes it happens, especially during Coaches/Captain's Meetings.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I ALWAYS use a Listerine Strip before each game.

While I try to avoid getting up close and personal with folks, sometimes it happens, especially during Coaches/Captain's Meetings.

Pre-games are completely unnessary. 86 them and you can probably worm your way out of the breath odor deal.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by DLH17

Pre-games are completely unnessary. 86 them and you can probably worm your way out of the breath odor deal.

To you they may be unnecessary......to me, they are required and do have a smidge of value.

[DLH17]

Originally Posted by grunewar

To you they may be unnecessary......to me, they are required and do have a smidge of value.

same here with me

[asdf]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Correct, there is no problem having a beer for lunch prior to a later game. The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

Originally Posted by fullor30

Question...........what's your time frame on having a beer prior to a game?

Right from the NFHS Basketball Officials Manual.....

1.2.16 Cardinal Principles: The following items are specific goals and personal attributes that every good official will strive to attain and accepted procedures which should be followed:

m) Do not consume alcoholic beverages at any time on the day of and prior to a contest.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by asdf

Right from the NFHS Basketball Officials Manual.....

1.2.16 Cardinal Principles: The following items are specific goals and personal attributes that every good official will strive to attain and accepted procedures which should be followed:

m) Do not consume alcoholic beverages at any time on the day of and prior to a contest.

Goals, not absolutes; besides, this goes against your statement that you wouldn't drink after midnight the night before the game. If you go by this standard, if you have a game on Sunday, you can't drink after midnight Friday. There a lot of officials on this board for whom that would mean no alcohol from Thanksgiving until March.

You may think I'm misinterpreting the statement, and I would agree with you; but it's not an unreasonable reading of the quoted statement.