Drunken Referree

asdf · #1 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 14, 2010, 12:14pm

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Bullcrap

Right...

Tell you what... Why don't you invite Dave Gannaway out for a cold beer and a sandwich prior to your next game.

fullor30 · #2 (**permalink**) Sun Feb 14, 2010, 05:11pm

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Originally Posted by asdf

Right...

Tell you what... Why don't you invite Dave Gannaway out for a cold beer and a sandwich prior to your next game.

It wouldn't be a business lunch. One beer at noon and a varsity game at 7:30 I don't have a problem with. That said, other than my post regarding lacrosse game, I can't remember having a glass of wine or beer as I don't imbibe during the day.If I did, I certainly would make sure I didn't have any alchohol on my breath, and have a habit of a breath mint before every game.

I think you're confusing this site with the United Airlines pilots forum.

Double bullcrap.

wildcatter · #3 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 15, 2010, 12:44am

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i think you're confusing this site with the united airlines pilots forum.

Hahaha, hilarious- nice!

asdf · #4 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 15, 2010, 11:36am

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Originally Posted by fullor30

It wouldn't be a business lunch. One beer at noon and a varsity game at 7:30 I don't have a problem with. That said, other than my post regarding lacrosse game, I can't remember having a glass of wine or beer as I don't imbibe during the day.If I did, I certainly would make sure I didn't have any alchohol on my breath, and have a habit of a breath mint before every game.

I think you're confusing this site with the United Airlines pilots forum.

Double bullcrap.

Double bullcrap?? Is your real name Spaulding?

I have a better idea, invite Gannaway to your one-beer, noon lunch and explain to him that you have a varsity game at 7:30 that night.

I'm sure he'll endorse that thinking.

Better yet, when you greet the coaches before the game, why don't you tell them that you enjoyed a cold beer at a noon lunch that day.

fullor30 · #5 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 15, 2010, 12:34pm

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Double bullcrap?? Is your real name Spaulding?

I have a better idea, invite Gannaway to your one-beer, noon lunch and explain to him that you have a varsity game at 7:30 that night.

I'm sure he'll endorse that thinking.

Better yet, when you greet the coaches before the game, why don't you tell them that you enjoyed a cold beer at a noon lunch that day.

A little crisp today are we? I'm guessing there are or have been incidents close to home involving alcohol with you.

Regarding your zero tolerance, I went to Mass Sunday morning receiving the sacrament of Holy Communion which included Altar wine, I then (shudder) did a few kids games a few hours later.

I've heard Gannaway enjoys veal in a wine sauce or beer cheese soup, but you'd put a stop to that one.

If you're not involved in that cult down in Texas, you really should be on the United pilots forum, can you get me one of those spiffy captain's wings badges?

asdf · #6 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 15, 2010, 05:04pm

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A little crisp today are we? I'm guessing there are or have been incidents close to home involving alcohol with you.

Regarding your zero tolerance, I went to Mass Sunday morning receiving the sacrament of Holy Communion which included Altar wine, I then (shudder) did a few kids games a few hours later.

I've heard Gannaway enjoys veal in a wine sauce or beer cheese soup, but you'd put a stop to that one.

If you're not involved in that cult down in Texas, you really should be on the United pilots forum, can you get me one of those spiffy captain's wings badges?

Classic, instead of answering why you would not tell the HC that you had a beer at lunch prior to his game, you try to insult me..... Weak.....

Then again....

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Really happened to me, I was scheduled to do a Lacrosse game late afternoon and had a business lunch that started late. I had a beer with lunch and was worried it was on my breath. I stopped at CVS and was pressed for time, grabbed a small travel bottle of mouth wash and took a shot as I got back into car, problem was it was hand sanitizer...........WOW!!!! My mouth lit up like three mile island

Looks to me like you can't make up your mind.....

If it's no problem having a beer, why were you worried about the beer being on your breath?

fullor30 · #7 (**permalink**) Mon Feb 15, 2010, 11:51pm

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Classic, instead of answering why you would not tell the HC that you had a beer at lunch prior to his game, you try to insult me..... Weak.....

Then again....

Looks to me like you can't make up your mind.....

If it's no problem having a beer, why were you worried about the beer being on your breath?

Are you daft? Why would I tell anyone what I had for lunch?

Correct, there is no problem having a beer for lunch prior to a later game. The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

Why is that a problem for you to comprehend?

For the record, I rarely have an alcoholic drink at lunch as it makes me sleepy.

Question...........what's your time frame on having a beer prior to a game?

Jurassic Referee · #8 (**permalink**) Tue Feb 16, 2010, 07:34am

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The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

And that is why both my local football and basketball officiating associations have the exact same rule. No drinking the day of a game.

One drink smells the same as ten. And it doesn't matter if you have 1/2 a beer, if someone smells alcohol on your breath and wants to complain about your officiating, they will tell everybody that you were drunk.

And unfortunately, some mouthwashes, medications and sprays can leave an alcohol smell also. That means that if we do have to investigate a drinking complaint, that has to to be taken into account too. The benefit of the doubt always goes to the official.

Having said that, if a situation came up where an official was injured, etc. and needed to be replaced, using a non-impaired official who maybe had a drink earlier would be fine as long as everybody involved was notified and had no problems with it, Ya gotta use a little common sense.

asdf · #9 (**permalink**) Tue Feb 16, 2010, 02:46pm

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Correct, there is no problem having a beer for lunch prior to a later game. The problem is having alcohol on your breath.

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Question...........what's your time frame on having a beer prior to a game?

Right from the NFHS Basketball Officials Manual.....

1.2.16 Cardinal Principles: The following items are specific goals and personal attributes that every good official will strive to attain and accepted procedures which should be followed:

m) Do not consume alcoholic beverages at any time on the day of and prior to a contest.