"C" Calls 10 Second Violation

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

To be fair, it is a true representation most of the time. If the ball was caught immediately on the throwin, the clock would be an accurate measure.

Then the clock should be used, not the official swinging his arm.

As a coach, I'm counting the arm swings. I would be very hot if a C came in and told me we used 10 seconds when the T had only swung his arm 8 times. I might have called a timeout or something. I would likely earn a technical in the process, too.

And as the T, I would probably.....oh, wait, I know how this story plays out, don't I?

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

Then the clock should be used, not the official swinging his arm.

As a coach, I'm counting the arm swings. I would be very hot if a C came in and told me we used 10 seconds when the T had only swung his arm 8 times. I might have called a timeout or something. I would likely earn a technical in the process, too.

And as the T, I would probably.....oh, wait, I know how this story plays out, don't I?

The problem with using the clock, and the reason we don't do it, is that you often can't watch the play and the clock at the same time.

I understand that the officials count (arm swing) is offiical, but anyone that argues for/against a call/non-call when a properly started clock indicates otherwise has a valid point. I constantly check my count against the clock...if for no other reason than to verify its pace.

I've observed that a distinct majority of officials count way too slow. The clock will consistently indicate that 10 has expired before, sometimes way before, the official gets to 10.

And I'm NOT suggesting that the C should jump in and call it unless the FED issues a ruling that says the clock is official....then anyone that sees the clock can call it.

[BBrules]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I've observed that a distinct majority of officials count way too slow. The clock will consistently indicate that 10 has expired before, sometimes way before, the official gets to 10.

This is very true. Of the 30 or so games I've had the opportunity to see this year the vast majority are way behind the clock. The worst was probably a GJV game where the official got to the 4th arm swing at the division line in a very slow stroll. Another didn't even start a count until the player was confronted in the backcourt about 8' from the division line.