Player on Floor Legal Guarding Position

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

B2 does NOT have a legal guarding position BUT, B2 does have a legal position on the court and A3 has either committed a player control foul or a traveling violation.

Agree. There used to be a case play for this exact situation but it has disappeared.

The NCAA ruling is different though, I think.

Went to an old case book and looked it up. From the 2001-02 case book:

10.6.1 SITUATION E: B1 attempts to steal the ball from stationary A1 who is holding the ball. B1 misses the ball and falls to the floor. In dribbling away, A1 contact's B1's leg, loses control of the ball and falls to the floor.
RULING: No infraction or foul has occurred and play continues. Unless B1 made an effort to trip or block A1, he/she is entitled to a position on the court even though it is momentarily lying on the floor after falling down.

The concept used in the RULING of that case play hasn't changed afaik.

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

From the 2001-02 case book:
10.6.1 SITUATION E: B1 attempts to steal the ball from stationary A1 who is holding the ball. B1 misses the ball and falls to the floor. In dribbling away, A1 contact's B1's leg, loses control of the ball and falls to the floor.
RULING: No infraction or foul has occurred and play continues. Unless B1 made an effort to trip or block A1, he/she is entitled to a position on the court even though it is momentarily lying on the floor after falling down.

Thanx JR. Your answer to my inquiry came in before I could hit the submit button. I'll study your old interp.
And Snaqs, too. You're both as quick with the reply as you probably are getting to the endline as new L in transition.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Agree. There used to be a case play for this exact situation but it has disappeared.

The NCAA ruling is different though, I think.

Went to an old case book and looked it up. From the 2001-02 case book:

10.6.1 SITUATION E: B1 attempts to steal the ball from stationary A1 who is holding the ball. B1 misses the ball and falls to the floor. In dribbling away, A1 contact's B1's leg, loses control of the ball and falls to the floor.
RULING: No infraction or foul has occurred and play continues. Unless B1 made an effort to trip or block A1, he/she is entitled to a position on the court even though it is momentarily lying on the floor after falling down.

The concept used in the RULING of that case play hasn't changed afaik.

Yes, the NCAA rule is different. I know because I called a travel in this situation in the very first NCAA game I ever worked. Didn't feel right about it and my partners weren't sure when we talked about it. So I looked it up (instead of coming on here and asking blindly ) and saw that NFHS and NCAA have differing rules.