Theoretical question - ball off an opponents head

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Now the debate has been whether the action constitutes fighting or is simply a flagrant technical foul for unsporting conduct.
Care to make a choice?

Why not?

The act being discussed doesn't meet the definition of fighting as outlined in rule 4-18. It does meet the definition of a flagrant technical foul under 4-19-5(b) & 4-19-4.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Why not?

The act being discussed doesn't meet the definition of fighting as outlined in rule 4-18. It does meet the definition of a flagrant technical foul under 4-19-5(b) & 4-19-4.

That's what I wrote back in post #6, but several others disagreed.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That's what I wrote back in post #6, but several others disagreed.

And I still do. In the end, it really doesn't matter. The kid is done for the game regardless. When the state gets the info, they'll make their choice for the proper sanctions. Out of my hands, and whether I use the term "fighting" isn't going to affect that.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

And I still do. In the end, it really doesn't matter. The kid is done for the game regardless. When the state gets the info, they'll make their choice for the proper sanctions. Out of my hands, and whether I use the term "fighting" isn't going to affect that.

I think that there is a difference between violent conduct and fighting, but perhaps that's just because I also officiate soccer.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

I think that there is a difference between violent conduct and fighting, but perhaps that's just because I also officiate soccer.

Fair enough, but when I look at this I have two questions.

1. Does this fit the rule, by word, for "fighting?" I think it does. It's a combative act between opponents.

2. Does it fit the spirit and intent of the committee? This is more difficult to determine, generally, but I fail to see how this doesn't fit the intent.

[just another ref]

Suggestion: Lump them together.

10-3-6: A player shall not commit an unsporting foul. This includes.......acts such as:

i. fighting.