Flagrant for Words

[Spence]

I'm curious as to your opinion as to what might constitute a flagrant T on a player who is having words with another player. No punches. Nothing physical. Is it as simple as the F word being used?

[representing]

Just heard this one about two weeks ago. A buddy of mine was doing a game where a few players knew Spanish in addition to English. Little did these players know that my buddy also knew Spanish. I think you know where this is going:

One of the players, during the game, said "you're an @$$hole" in Spanish to my buddy to which he responded, in Spanish "you're outta here!" (or something similar) after blowing his whistle and signaling a Technical. The player was shocked to see the referee knew Spanish but then just laughed at his own stupidity while walking to the bench.

[Raymond]

Threats of bodily harm.

Racial statements.

[slow whistle]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Threats of bodily harm.

Racial statements.

Agree with the above, was not thinking along these lines, but either would be flagrant.

[tw1ns]

threats of bodily harm - towards ME!!!

[FishinRef]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Threats of bodily harm.

Racial statements.

I agree 100%

Any Word or Action that could be perceived to invoke violence.

No Place For It In The Game Period.

Just dropping the F Bomb would normally warrant a good ole T

[fullor30]

Not to hijack thread, but a slight variation. Had a boys game last week and an F bomb came out not directed at anyone but in frustration over a missed shot. somewhat quiet, yet it caught my attention. break in action and I discreetly told him to watch language. I ignore if uttered under breath but this was getting up there in decibels.

[Ignats75]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Not to hijack thread, but a slight variation. Had a boys game last week and an F bomb came out not directed at anyone but in frustration over a missed shot. somewhat quiet, yet it caught my attention. break in action and I discreetly told him to watch language. I ignore if uttered under breath but this was getting up there in decibels.

I had a similar situation. Player upset with hmself for missing a bunny. Coach is berating him from the bench and he mutters to himself $h!t. I quietly walked up to him and said "You said shoot right?" He sheepishly grinned and said yeah. He got the point.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by fullor30

Not to hijack thread, but a slight variation. Had a boys game last week and an F bomb came out not directed at anyone but in frustration over a missed shot. somewhat quiet, yet it caught my attention. break in action and I discreetly told him to watch language. I ignore if uttered under breath but this was getting up there in decibels.

Same way I handle it if not too loud.

[IREFU2]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Threats of bodily harm.

Racial statements.

I concur on this one as well.

[slow whistle]

"Yo mama!" Personally I can't see issuing a flagrant for words between players in a varsity game, but I'm sure others will disagree. Unless it was a turrets-like explosion of explatives, I don't think I would go flagrant on "f' you!" Certainly a T and a very short leash however.