Flagrant for Words
I'm curious as to your opinion as to what might constitute a flagrant T on a player who is having words with another player. No punches. Nothing physical. Is it as simple as the F word being used?
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Just heard this one about two weeks ago. A buddy of mine was doing a game where a few players knew Spanish in addition to English. Little did these players know that my buddy also knew Spanish. I think you know where this is going:
One of the players, during the game, said "you're an @$$hole" in Spanish to my buddy to which he responded, in Spanish "you're outta here!" (or something similar) after blowing his whistle and signaling a Technical. The player was shocked to see the referee knew Spanish but then just laughed at his own stupidity while walking to the bench. |
"Yo mama!":D Personally I can't see issuing a flagrant for words between players in a varsity game, but I'm sure others will disagree. Unless it was a turrets-like explosion of explatives, I don't think I would go flagrant on "f' you!" Certainly a T and a very short leash however.
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Threats of bodily harm.
Racial statements. |
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threats of bodily harm - towards ME!!!
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Any Word or Action that could be perceived to invoke violence. No Place For It In The Game Period. Just dropping the F Bomb would normally warrant a good ole T |
Not to hijack thread, but a slight variation. Had a boys game last week and an F bomb came out not directed at anyone but in frustration over a missed shot. somewhat quiet, yet it caught my attention. break in action and I discreetly told him to watch language. I ignore if uttered under breath but this was getting up there in decibels.
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I'm going to use that.........."you said duck, right"? |
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In reply to the OP, I agree with the part about threats of bodily harm, and racial statements. I would also like to add "offensive gender statements" to the list. A certain amount of teasing with regard to gender or sexual preferences is accepted among friends, but it must be absolutely zero between opponents, imo. Even if the individuals involved are friends off the court, it's risky in a game, in the same way that certain offensive racial statements would be.
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There are other words that I might react in the same way to, although again it would depend on the context. "Good shot, fatty" said sarcastically by an opponent on an airball, might very well be flagrant. It's the tone of disrespect and bullying that would make this unacceptable. Same would apply to "homo" "fag" and others. Are those words ever said respectfully? Not very often. I'd be looking pretty hard to see if there was any redeeming social value in the situation. |
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