3 seconds violation

[Papamilnes08]

When I was reffing a high school mens game last night, a player came up to me at half time and asked a question. He asked me a good question that i asked my fellow officals and we couldnt come up with a solid answer. When the offensive team is inbounding the ball from the far end of the court and needs to cross the half court line to approach their basket, the 10 second count is done for the offense to get across the half court line. But while the offense is still on the opposite side of the court during the 10 second count, can there be a 3 second violation on the offense in the offensive paint, or does the 3 second count start when the ball crosses the half court line?

[Jurassic Referee]

You'll find your solid answer in NFHS rule 9-7-1.

Did any of your fellow officials try to look it up?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by Papamilnes08

.... i asked my fellow officals and we couldnt come up with a solid answer.

That's pretty scary.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That's pretty scary.

Maybe they were volleyball officials.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

That's pretty scary.

Wow! Any of these guys read a rule book or take and pass the exam? Any of em?

[Anchor]

Go easy guys. Forget the rule book--a simple rule of thumb is all that is necessary: regardless of ball position, it is 3-seconds when someone hands you a burnt marshmallow.

Now, back to the OP--it does seem a little perplexing to me that of 3 varsity level officials someone did not know that front court makes a difference. Time to spend some more time in the rule and case book.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Anchor

Now, back to the OP--it does seem a little perplexing to me that of 3 varsity level officials someone did not know that front court makes a difference.

Agreed. I also find that marshmallow thing a bit perplexing.

[mutantducky]

he must've meant smores. that makes a whole lot more sense.

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by just another ref

Agreed. I also find that marshmallow thing a bit perplexing.

It's a southern thing. When we're camping out we simply roast marshmallows (no s'mores). Standard answer to newbie officials when inquiring about 3-seconds: "call it when they hand you a burnt marshmallow."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Papamilnes08

When I was reffing a high school mens game last night

A high school mens game? You mean a high school game in which all the boys were at least 18?

[Bellbuoy]

We had an official tell us last week that he wouldn't call 3 seconds on an offensive player with one foot in the lane every time because it "would slow down the game".

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Papamilnes08

When I was reffing a high school mens game last night, a player came up to me at half time and asked a question. He asked me a good question that i asked my fellow officals and we couldnt come up with a solid answer. When the offensive team is inbounding the ball from the far end of the court and needs to cross the half court line to approach their basket, the 10 second count is done for the offense to get across the half court line. But while the offense is still on the opposite side of the court during the 10 second count, can there be a 3 second violation on the offense in the offensive paint, or does the 3 second count start when the ball crosses the half court line?

You and your fellow officials HS varsity officials could not come up with an answer???
That must be some difficult exam you have to take to get certified on your board..
What do you guys do when you encounter a complex rules situation???