Intentional foul...and TO request

[grunewar]

If Team A is on a fast break and going in for a layup and Team A Coach is requesting a timeout as HIS team is going in - I'm granting it and telling him I heard him request the timeout before the foul and I'm granting it. As the T they could have had a good look at the sequence and timing.

If Team A Coach is requesting a TO while his team is on the break, I'm giving it to him. Silly coach!

[RookieDude]

Originally Posted by grunewar

If Team A is on a fast break and going in for a layup and Team A Coach is requesting a timeout as HIS team is going in - I'm granting it and telling him I heard him request the timeout before the foul and I'm granting it. As the T they could have had a good look at the sequence and timing.

If Team A Coach is requesting a TO while his team is on the break, I'm giving it to him. Silly coach!

...so you are going to ignore the intentional foul?

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

...so you are going to ignore the intentional foul?

I was looking up the citation when the Jurassic one printed his note. So I am going with his scenario two ICW 4-19-5(c). Interesting.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by RookieDude

As the Lead is getting ready to report...the Trail official approaches the Lead and says the he had a TO request from the Team A Coach...maybe "right before the foul or right about the same time." The Trail says that he blew the whistle to grant the TO "he thinks, a little before the Intentional foul call."

Watta ya got?

Tell the trail that he can't think; either it is or it isn't. If he isn't sure, you then have to decide between yourselves what came first, the foul or the TO being granted.

If he isn't sure that he blew the whistle before the intentional foul call and you both decide the foul came first, charge the intentional personal foul to B1 and then ask the coach of team A if he still wants the TO. If he does, after the TO is over have A1 shoot the 2 FT's for the intentional personal foul and give team A a throw-in at the closest OOB spot to where the foul occurred.


If he is sure that he blew the whistle before the intentional foul call, then the fun is gonna start. You grant the TO request to team A. But...big but.... by rule you now have an intentional contact foul while the ball is dead...which under rule 4-19-5(c) is an intentional technical foul. After team A takes the TO, any A player(s) can shoot the 2 FT's and team A will get a throw-in at center opposite the table.

Once the L gave the intentional foul signal, you pretty much gotta go through with it in either case.

That's the rule book solution imo.

You sure made up a dandy for them to think about, Dude.