Houston We Have A Problem!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I wasn't aware that there were any such situations. They always sit side-by-side or I don't let the game start.

(Well, that's not quite true. Once, the H scorer buzzed me to the table in the middle of the first quarter to point out that the V scorer wasn't sitting next to him. I made the scorers moved. Since it took a while, I gave the teams an officials time out.)

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What if the V coach doesn't want his/her scorer moved? They want their scorer close to their bench so they can communicate, then what?

Dammit, you got me Bob

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

For the past games, starting with the one that Rookiedude was an official, there's been an "X" taped to the floor. However, I've been observing that not all players are on it when they get called into the game.

If they're close, or on the way, it's close enough.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

For the past games, starting with the one that Rookiedude was an official, there's been an "X" taped to the floor. However, I've been observing that not all players are on it when they get called into the game.

Then don't let them in. Especially if it's the visitors. They haven't PROPERLY reported.

he mentioned that plans are in place to redo floor markings & that have an "X" in either purple or gold could be placed in front of the official scorer, instead of using the athletic tape like now.

That sounds good, but what if the scorer then doesn't sit right behind the "X" (or you move the scorer, or the officials decide to make the V book the official book)?

Since it needs to be redone anyway, I'd suggest a wooden "X" painted gold on one side and purple on the other. Then, cut "X"s into the floor all along the scorer's table and place the wooden insert into the appropriate slot on the floor. The others could be filled with the cutouts that match the floor. IT would look pretty sharp and give you the flexibility you need.

Get another appointment and suggest it before they begin the work.

[Ignats75]

You are a bad boy Bob.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Since it needs to be redone anyway, I'd suggest a wooden "X" painted gold on one side and purple on the other. Then, cut "X"s into the floor all along the scorer's table and place the wooden insert into the appropriate slot on the floor. The others could be filled with the cutouts that match the floor. IT would look pretty sharp and give you the flexibility you need.

Me likey! Always helpful that Bob!

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Then don't let them in. Especially if it's the visitors. They haven't PROPERLY reported.




That sounds good, but what if the scorer then doesn't sit right behind the "X" (or you move the scorer, or the officials decide to make the V book the official book)?

Since it needs to be redone anyway, I'd suggest a wooden "X" painted gold on one side and purple on the other. Then, cut "X"s into the floor all along the scorer's table and place the wooden insert into the appropriate slot on the floor. The others could be filled with the cutouts that match the floor. IT would look pretty sharp and give you the flexibility you need.

Get another appointment and suggest it before they begin the work.

For clarification right now, the taped "X", which was removed after Rookiedude's game, but was replaced the next game by CHSLadyEagle & I, is placed right at the center of the table. However, some players when they come in to sub, will stand/kneel at the edge of the table. The table is a portable table that's located so there's just enough room for a player to kneel/sit in front of it so they're OOB.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

For clarification right now, the taped "X", which was removed after Rookiedude's game, but was replaced the next game by CHSLadyEagle & I, is placed right at the center of the table.

The X is supposed to be on the floor.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The X is supposed to be on the floor.

Just had to keep this thread going, didn't you.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by just another ref

The X is supposed to be on the floor.

AKA It's on the floor, in front of the scorer's table, center. All sarcasm & joking aside, it surprises me that those that are supposed to know the rules/regulations (coaches, ADs) don't seem to even want to adhere to the rules/regulations.

Like in the case of the official scorer being next to the home bench, instead of sitting in the middle of the table.

Like I mentioned in another thread, I found out (by browsing out of curiosity) that FIBA has the scorers' table set up basically the same exact way I have been setting it up lately. (Only difference is no Commissioner at the table).

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Like in the case of the official scorer being next to the home bench, instead of sitting in the middle of the table.

Dude, you've got to let this go. The two can talk to each other even if there's someone in between them. It's not that hard.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Dude, you've got to let this go. The two can talk to each other even if there's someone in between them. It's not that hard.

2 people between them (timer & shot clock), for the Sub-V games the scorebooks seem to only communicate if they didn't know who scored or who the foul was on. Other than that very tight-lipped.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chseagle

2 people between them (timer & shot clock), for the Sub-V games the scorebooks seem to only communicate if they didn't know who scored or who the foul was on. Other than that very tight-lipped.

One person, two people, doesn't matter; close enough to talk if they need and/or want to. Frankly, setting them next to one another isn't going to change a thing. Is it preferred? Sure, but it's not worth losing any sleep over.

[Smitty]

Originally Posted by chseagle

2 people between them (timer & shot clock), for the Sub-V games the scorebooks seem to only communicate if they didn't know who scored or who the foul was on. Other than that very tight-lipped.

Who cares in sub-v games? Isn't there a timer/scorer message board you can go play on?

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

2 people between them (timer & shot clock), for the Sub-V games the scorebooks seem to only communicate if they didn't know who scored or who the foul was on. Other than that very tight-lipped.

As long as the scorer is close enough to change the arrow, then the scorer is close enough to the visitor scorer to communicate.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

As long as the scorer is close enough to change the arrow, then the scorer is close enough to the visitor scorer to communicate.

Hence wherein lies the problem, the scorer for the Sub-V games, as long as I've been doing table operations, has never done AP at my alma mater. The only times at my alma mater where I've seen the scorer doing the AP has been during Varsity only.

Even during 4A Regionals last February, it was the timer that was doing the AP.