Gotta Love Rec league

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

We do also but for insurance coverage reasons.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Same here, liability issues.

Interesting, but it doesn't make sense to me. We work scrimmages every season at the hs level.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Interesting, but it doesn't make sense to me. We work scrimmages every season at the hs level.

Those are scheduled scrimmages and here in VA high school scrimmages are regulated by the VHSL.

If I'm scheduled to work a game, and the game is a forfeit, I'm not officiating the ensuing "scrimmage" or "pick-up" game. And I don't feel bad about it. I showed up for work, not my fault if one of the teams didn't.

[jTheUmp]

I feel almost exactly the opposite.

I'm getting paid to be there, so I might as well do something to earn my money, and the kids that are there should get a chance to play, especially at the younger levels. After all, we're really there for the kids.

Perhaps I do still have some of my youthful idealism left after all.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I feel almost exactly the opposite.

I'm getting paid to be there, so I might as well do something to earn my money, and the kids that are there should get a chance to play, especially at the younger levels. After all, we're really there for the kids.

Perhaps I do still have some of my youthful idealism left after all.

You're getting paid to officiate actual basketball contests, not scrimmages.

I worked a couple of "off-the-cuff" scrimmages my first year and vowed to never do it again. They are nightmare scenarios just waiting to happen.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I feel almost exactly the opposite.

I'm getting paid to be there, so I might as well do something to earn my money, and the kids that are there should get a chance to play, especially at the younger levels. After all, we're really there for the kids.

Perhaps I do still have some of my youthful idealism left after all.

I don't look at it the same way. I have kids of my own. And I have earned my money by being there dressed and ready for tip-off. Once the game is a forfeit there is nothing stopping the kids or adults who participate from playing pick-up ball on their own. They don't need me for that.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by jTheUmp

I feel almost exactly the opposite.

I'm getting paid to be there, so I might as well do something to earn my money, and the kids that are there should get a chance to play, especially at the younger levels. After all, we're really there for the kids.

Perhaps I do still have some of my youthful idealism left after all.

It's not a matter of how anybody feels. And it's got nuthin' to do with idealism either. It is what it is.

If we stay and do the forfeited game, we have no insurance coverage. That doesn't mean that we can't still stay and do a scrimmage. That's completely up to the individual official. They just have to make that decision knowing that they have no insurance coverage from their officials association if they do so. They may still be covered under the group insurance of whoever is running this league if they have coverage though.

Personally, I agree with Newz about not staying. But it also ain't up to me to judge anybody that does want to stay. Conversely, they shouldn't be judging me either.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

But it also ain't up to me to judge anybody that does want to stay. Conversely, they shouldn't be judging me either.

Agreed, but you're still taking all the fun out of it.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Agreed, but you're still taking all the fun out of it.

Shut up!!!!

How is that for fun?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

Shut up!!!!

How is that for fun?

Much better, thanks.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Agreed, but you're still taking all the fun out of it.

Actually...do you know that when most people say "actually", they are really saying "hey stoopid, I'm right"....but I digress.....there's some good points brought up in this thread.

If anyone has insurance through their association, state, NASO, etc., they should check their coverage for situations like this. I know how our insurance coverage reads; I also know that some other policies will cover all games that their customers recognize and approve, such as scrimmages following forfeits.

And Newz had a good point also---> shut up.