Pay cut to work 3 man?

[amusedofficial]

Interesting to see the quote from a coach who liked a two-official game.

So if he's in a two-whistle league or state, and officials at one of his away games went to the AD and demanded three officials and got it, that is somehow fair?

We can't stop his physical play, so we'll call in an extra official.

Is it fair for the home team to order up a three man crew with a team comes to town that is more physical than Hometown H.S., but goes with the crew of two when Featherweight H.S. is visiting?

Every coach in every basketballlllll game tries to get away with whatever s/he can get away with. It is not up to officials to change the ground rules on a game by game basis, and school should not be able to vary league or state policy on a game by game basis.

You want a crew of three, get it into the league rules before the season starts, or by league-wide decree during the season. Officials seeking to change the parameters on a game by game basis are flat-out unethical.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

Interesting to see the quote from a coach who liked a two-official game.

So if he's in a two-whistle league or state, and officials at one of his away games went to the AD and demanded three officials and got it, that is somehow fair?

We can't stop his physical play, so we'll call in an extra official.

Is it fair for the home team to order up a three man crew with a team comes to town that is more physical than Hometown H.S., but goes with the crew of two when Featherweight H.S. is visiting?

Every coach in every basketballlllll game tries to get away with whatever s/he can get away with. It is not up to officials to change the ground rules on a game by game basis, and school should not be able to vary league or state policy on a game by game basis.

You want a crew of three, get it into the league rules before the season starts, or by league-wide decree during the season. Officials seeking to change the parameters on a game by game basis are flat-out unethical.

I don't get your accusation. Unethical? Really, now.

Around here some conferences allow 3-person as long as the officials are willing to accept 2 checks. Some don't allow 3 at all. Some allow it if both teams agree to it. Some assign 3. The only thing consistent is the inconsistency.

As far as places where officials associations contract with schools, I simply recommend that if the association wishes to work 3-person in varsity games that they simply say "no, thanks" to schools and conferences that only wish to hire a 2-person crew. They can find their officials elsewhere. Of course, this could lead to a shortage of games for that group.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

We can't stop his physical illegal and unethical play, so we'll call in an extra official.

Fixed it for you, and this is exactly why we work games with three instead of two.

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

Every coach in every basketballlllll game tries to get away with whatever s/he can get away with. It is not up to officials to change the ground rules on a game by game basis, and school should not be able to vary league or state policy on a game by game basis.

There is a coaches code of ethics in the rule book. I don't have any sympathy for coaches who complain they can't get away with stuff.

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

You want a crew of three, get it into the league rules before the season starts, or by league-wide decree during the season. Officials seeking to change the parameters on a game by game basis are flat-out unethical.

The only reason I ever hear given for using 2 instead of 3 is money. That's it. If the local officials want to take a cut to get experience with 3 (or use 3 for any reason), the schools really don't have any logical recourse. Of course, they can say no. But they never do (that's telling).

And to have you call us unethical for using a third official on some games and not others (completely within the rules) while defending coach's rights to try to get away with stuff (against the actual code of ethics) seems, at best inconsistent. At worst; hypocritical.