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LocDog and I are in the same association but have not yet met (he just moved here this season). This is a nice idea except that the associations in Oregon don't get to set their fees...we have little say. The OSAA sets the fees that assoications are permitted to charge schools/pay officials for all JV and Varsity games (and, at the same time, it also sets the fees that the schools are required to pay). The OSAA also is in control of what kinds of crews are used for each type of games. Associations are chartered by the OSAA and are required to follow the OSAA regulations. Freshmane/Sophomore games are not as regulated...schools can use independant organizations/officials. Quote:
This prevents a lot of conflict situations....schools can't shop for officials groups that they like based on a couple of wins/losses. The organizations are not incline to behave unethically to win a few more schools. On occassion, there have been new organizations that have been chartered and areas split, but it doesn't happen often.
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We do not have 3 person crews mandated except for sectional semi and championship games. We do have a some senior officials hoping for 3 person crews so they will not have to give up their varsity status because they are no longer able to keep up in the 2 person game. This actually hurst the younger guys who have to go to other areas to work varsity level games.
As for the comment of not having 2 good officials work with a 3rd who should be at the jv level how do you expect new guys to learn and improve at 3 man if they never get to work it? I may only be guessing but just because states and districts use 3 man at the varsity level does not mean they are using it at the JV level so the training for 3 man may have to ba at the varsity level. Just my opinion |
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Way back when when HS, Juco, and a large amount of small college was still 2 man, I agreed with an assessment about it not really needed at the lower levels. But the HS game now is better than the small college game was 15 years ago and with the floor spread from sideline to sideline up and down the floor, 2 man WILL miss something regardless of how conditioned you are. |
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Maybe I should try to get video clips together from some of the games and edit it together so that the coaches can see all the calls that were missed that would have gone in their favor... lol Then just hope they don't realize that there would be a similar amount of calls missed that would go in the other teams favor.
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Do you know which is the closest to the truth? Do you know how it was proposed to the schools? Was it just, "do you want a third official for varsity games for the same fee?" or was it along the lines of "1 crew of 3 officials works JV/V double-header for just an overall small increase in fee?" If the state is so in control of fees and 2 or 3 man, why aren't they more proactive in getting 3 officials for at least varsity games? If the school is allowed to use non-licensed officials for F/S, why do they get paid the same for JV? Sorry for a million questions, and maybe this forum isn't the best place to continue this discussion. If you want you can PM me or just reply here, or let me know and I can track you down through email. |
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