NCAA M Traveling

[Nevadaref]

The rule is the same at both levels.

Now the difference is what exactly constitutes "rolling over." That is at the discretion of the official. For me the player has to go 180 degrees or more. Side to side ok, but front to back or back to front is a travel.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The rule is the same at both levels.

Now the difference is what exactly constitutes "rolling over." That is at the discretion of the official. For me the player has to go 180 degrees or more. Side to side ok, but front to back or back to front is a travel.

Thanks for the info on the rule. The play I saw last night was a clear front-to-back roll. Laying flat on his stomach a player gathered the ball, others were trying to get after it and he rolled over on his back and sat up, then called timeout.

Perhaps they've been guided not to call this...or perhaps they just don't call this...but it would have been an easy call for me in a HS game, and one for which I don't think I'd have caught anything from the coach.

[CMHCoachNRef]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The rule is the same at both levels.

Now the difference is what exactly constitutes "rolling over." That is at the discretion of the official. For me the player has to go 180 degrees or more. Side to side ok, but front to back or back to front is a travel.

nevada,
Maybe I am struggling with the math here, but isn't side to side going 1/2 way around a body? Therefore, isn't back to front and side to side both 180 degrees?

Just sayin'

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by CMHCoachNRef

nevada,
Maybe I am struggling with the math here, but isn't side to side going 1/2 way around a body? Therefore, isn't back to front and side to side both 180 degrees?

Just sayin'

I believe that rocking side to side is much less than 180. The players is not starting out in a vertical position up on his right shoulder and side, then rolling on his back all the way to the point where he reaches vertical with his left shoulder and side touching the floor. That would be 180. What I'm picturing is more like 130 or 140.

[zm1283]

IMO too many guys call this traveling when it really isn't. A player will be laying on his back with the ball and will rock toward one side to make a pass (Not roll all the way over on to their stomach, but just on to their shoulder) and the official will call a traveling violation. For me, they have to roll 180 degrees like Nevada is saying.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by zm1283

IMO too many guys call this traveling when it really isn't. A player will be laying on his back with the ball and will rock toward one side to make a pass (Not roll all the way over on to their stomach, but just on to their shoulder) and the official will call a traveling violation. For me, they have to roll 180 degrees like Nevada is saying.

I agree. However, it has nothing to do with this particular question, as in these instances there were players turning a full 180 from front to back.

[JRutledge]

And it is a judgment call if there is possession. That is not as black and white either. The rules are the same, but different officials interpret (or have different judgment) actions differently some times.

Peace