Pregames

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The scorer is "responsible for the posession arrow." That doesn't mean s/he has to be the only one who physically presses the button.

Bob,

I was asking a bit of a stupid question, as I've seen the possession arrow physically taken care of by either the scorer or the the timer. In the JV & C-Squad games where I'm scorevoard/timer, I'm the one that physically handles the possession arrow. Then again, generally the official scorers in the JV & C-Squad games don't keep track of the AP either. Only once so far this year, during a JV or C-Squad game, have I seen a scorebook keep track of the possession arrow, that happened this last weekend. The scorebook keeping track, however, was the visitng book.

When I mean physically handle the possession arrow, I actually spin it, as it's a wooden arrow.

However, on the "Instructions to & duties of the scorers for basketball games", under equipment it states:

Scorebook, pencils, possession arrow & signaling device with sound different from that of the timer. The scorebook must be available for inspection at the table from 10 minutes prior to game time until the referee has approved the final score.

[SCalScoreKeeper]

When the table crew has worked together for any significant length of time a pre-game is not necessary. Everybody knows how to work with everybody else! Does any state have a rule that for regular season games the table personnel must be adults (Scorer,Shot Clock Operator-if applicable,and timer)? Mine does for the postseason but I was wondering if any did for regular season play.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

Does any state have a rule that for regular season games the table personnel must be adults (Scorer,Shot Clock Operator-if applicable,and timer)? Mine does for the postseason but I was wondering if any did for regular season play.

Not here in NVA. We have a lot of very competent, teenagers do the books much of the time. I have had few issues - thankfully.

I just make sure they put away their cell phones and PDAs.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by grunewar

Not here in NVA. We have a lot of very competent, teenagers do the books much of the time. I have had few issues - thankfully.

I just make sure they put away their cell phones and PDAs.

Our former public middle school league required the timer to be an adult. Since the old league had A and B games, the home team many times used a B team player to do the A game book and an A game player to keep the home book for the game.

Our present MS league has no such rules.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Bob,

I was asking a bit of a stupid question,

I'm getting used to you doing so

Only once so far this year, during a JV or C-Squad game, have I seen a scorebook keep track of the possession arrow,

If you want to improve your table, this is a place to start. Just as with the "book score" vs. the "scoreboard", the "posession" in the book is what matters. If it's indicating the AP goes to team A, and the physical arrow is pointing to team B, and the difference can't be reconciled, we're going with A.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If you want to improve your table, this is a place to start. Just as with the "book score" vs. the "scoreboard", the "posession" in the book is what matters. If it's indicating the AP goes to team A, and the physical arrow is pointing to team B, and the difference can't be reconciled, we're going with A.

Basically falling on deaf ears when it comes to the sub-V scorebooks. As far as they're concerned, they only should keep track of score, fouls, & timeouts.

The season's halfway over, & finally the "X" in front of the scorer is being placed on the floor. BTW, it was thanks to Rookiedude that this started happening.

Concerning the scorebooks & the duties of, I am thinking of e-mailing the Principal of my alma mater, as my suggestions/rocommendations/concerns seem to be falling on deaf ears for game management from talking with the AD.