Anyone ever called this?

[Jesse James]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

When you are a majority of one in a case like this, you probably have to change your opinion. But I still believe this is a mistake by the rules committee.

Make it two. I'd equate it to a delayed lane violation on the defense, free throw shooter making the free throw, and then getting another one due to the violation.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

Make it two. I'd equate it to a delayed lane violation on the defense, free throw shooter making the free throw, and then getting another one due to the violation.

I don't believe that's correct. If the FT is made, the violation is disregarded - 9-1 PENALTIES 2a.

[Jesse James]

That's what I'm saying-similar violations resulting in a scored hoop.

One situation ignores the violation.

The other penalizes it.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

That's what I'm saying-similar violations resulting in a scored hoop.

One situation ignores the violation.

The other penalizes it.

Free throw violations are simply different than standard violations, by rule. As I said previously, I have no problem penalizing the elbow violation by rule in this case. It's a safety issue and should be dealt with.

As far as the leaving the court, no problem with that either. For me to call it, it needs to be deliberate, obvious, and completely out of bounds. Call it and it'll only happen once.

That said, there are situations where I'd ignore it.

[Jesse James]

From a safety standpoint, I'm OK with the swinging elbows violation by the defense still allowing the score, and the offense gains another possession although I think I've got a chance to see my first multiple foul before I ever see that scenario.

I'm w/JK on the leaving the floor penalty. Bad rule.

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

That's what I'm saying-similar violations resulting in a scored hoop.

One situation ignores the violation.

The other penalizes it.

Gotcha. I thought you might have been saying the shooter gets another shot due to the violation, even on a made FT.

Never mind.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Jesse James

Make it two. I'd equate it to a delayed lane violation on the defense, free throw shooter making the free throw, and then getting another one due to the violation.

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

I don't believe that's correct. If the FT is made, the violation is disregarded - 9-1 PENALTIES 2a.

M&M, I think he's stating how the two are different and what would happen if they were made the same. I'm not sure, though.