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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 03:35pm
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Whose possession arrow is it?

Here's a scenario for you, let's hear the answer without looking it up in the rule book first.

Jump ball. AP arrow belongs to Team A. They are taking the ball out of bounds. Can't get the ball inbounds in the allowed 5 second time frame which now gives possession to Team B. What happens to the AP arrow? Team A or Team B?
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 03:40pm
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I believe this is one of those weird one's where team B get's the ball on the violation and they also gain the AP arrow and get the next held ball/jump ball too.
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Violation by the throw-team, so team B gets the throw-in for the violation, and the arrow changes to team B as well.
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 03:43pm
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Here's a scenario for you, let's hear the answer without looking it up in the rule book first.

Jump ball. AP arrow belongs to Team A. They are taking the ball out of bounds. Can't get the ball inbounds in the allowed 5 second time frame which now gives possession to Team B. What happens to the AP arrow? Team A or Team B?
The AP throwin ends when the throwin ends or when the team violates. Team A violated, therefore the throwin ended and the arrow is switched to team B. Team B also gets a throwin.
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(This part I looked up: 6-4-4.)
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Its not weird.

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I believe this is one of those weird one's where team B get's the ball on the violation and they also gain the AP arrow and get the next held ball/jump ball too.
That always happens when the throwin team violates on an AP throwin.
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 03:59pm
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AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?
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Old Mon Jan 18, 2010, 04:02pm
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AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?
If the defensive team violates such as a kicked ball then the arrow stays and the resulting throwin is not an AP throwin. It's a throwin for the violation. The previous AP throwin never was completed. That's why the team retains the arrow.
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AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?
Yes, the arrow stays when the defense commits a violation before the throw-in ends. This would apply to DOG violations as well.

Also, a foul by either team would leave the arrow in place.
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Here's a scenario for you, let's hear the answer without looking it up in the rule book first.

Jump ball. AP arrow belongs to Team A. They are taking the ball out of bounds. Can't get the ball inbounds in the allowed 5 second time frame which now gives possession to Team B. What happens to the AP arrow? Team A or Team B?
Without looking at the other posts, the violation by A causes them to lose the arrow. So B would get the throw-in for the violation and the arrow would be switched as well.
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(This part I looked up: 6-4-4.)
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