Whose possession arrow is it?

[Wellmer]

Here's a scenario for you, let's hear the answer without looking it up in the rule book first.

Jump ball. AP arrow belongs to Team A. They are taking the ball out of bounds. Can't get the ball inbounds in the allowed 5 second time frame which now gives possession to Team B. What happens to the AP arrow? Team A or Team B?

[grunewar]

I believe this is one of those weird one's where team B get's the ball on the violation and they also gain the AP arrow and get the next held ball/jump ball too.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by grunewar

I believe this is one of those weird one's where team B get's the ball on the violation and they also gain the AP arrow and get the next held ball/jump ball too.

That always happens when the throwin team violates on an AP throwin.

[M&M Guy]

Violation by the throw-team, so team B gets the throw-in for the violation, and the arrow changes to team B as well.

[M&M Guy]

(This part I looked up: 6-4-4.)

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by M&M Guy

(This part I looked up: 6-4-4.)

And Mr. Wellmer very specifically told you not to look it up in the rulebook.

Go to your room.

Now!

And no playing with anything. That includes yourself.

Bad, M&M.

Bad, bad M&M.

[Adam]

"Well, if it isn't our old, mangy, transient grandfather." Texas Ranger Bobby

[Wellmer]

Just like a lot of coaches, they just won't listen. Just kiddin'

[M&M Guy]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

And Mr. Wellmer very specifically told you not to look it up in the rulebook.

Go to your room.

Now!

And no playing with anything. That includes yourself.

Bad, M&M.

Bad, bad M&M.

Ok, I'm in my room. When can come out for supper? (And yes, I know, I can probably afford to miss a supper, or 7.)

Btw, I did answer the question without looking it up. I just looked up the proper rules reference number after I posted.

So, nyeh nyeh.

[Adam]

Must.....resist.....temptation.....

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Must.....resist.....temptation.....

Resist what temptation?

[Wellmer]

AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?

[rwest]

Originally Posted by Wellmer

AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?

If the defensive team violates such as a kicked ball then the arrow stays and the resulting throwin is not an AP throwin. It's a throwin for the violation. The previous AP throwin never was completed. That's why the team retains the arrow.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Wellmer

AP arrow would stay where it is on a defensive violation such as a kicked ball on the inbounds throw, correct?

Yes, the arrow stays when the defense commits a violation before the throw-in ends. This would apply to DOG violations as well.

Also, a foul by either team would leave the arrow in place.

[Loudwhistle]

Originally Posted by rwest

Resist what temptation?

To...........use...............the...........book! !