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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:48am
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Freshman girls last night and I had some season firsts.

1. First intentional foul of the year. Visitors down by three, home gets a rebound on my side (I'm T, new L) with about 20 seconds left. V34 decides to ignore the ball and just puts two hands in her back and pushes her. She didn't push hard, but it was too obvious. No one said a word, but the girl apparently (from a discussion she had with my partner) didn't know she couldn't do that.
2nd one last night. A has outrebounded B all night. Late in the game, B1 tries for rebound, falls, and while on the ground grabs A1 by the legs. A1 stumbles a bit. I never thought about flagrant, should I have?
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 11:54am
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2nd one last night. A has outrebounded B all night. Late in the game, B1 tries for rebound, falls, and while on the ground grabs A1 by the legs. A1 stumbles a bit. I never thought about flagrant, should I have?

I think intentional suffices based on the info provided.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:13pm
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2nd one last night. A has outrebounded B all night. Late in the game, B1 tries for rebound, falls, and while on the ground grabs A1 by the legs. A1 stumbles a bit. I never thought about flagrant, should I have?
"Flagrant" = "violent or savage" (or some such words from the definition). You can also think of it as "intent to harm".

I don't see that applying to the play you describe.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:30pm
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Had my first T at the varisty level on a coach last night. Fun stuff. Reminded me of the tirade in the "Words can't describe... this video" thread. Coach storming on the court after a TO is granted, screaming and pointing at my partner. I whacked her. Easy. Not as fun as I thought it would be though. More stressful.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 12:34pm
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I use the following criteria for determining if a foul is flagrant. If either one of the two happen, then it's flagrant.

1) intent to injure
2) total disregard for the safety of the other player
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 02:36pm
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2nd one last night. A has outrebounded B all night. Late in the game, B1 tries for rebound, falls, and while on the ground grabs A1 by the legs. A1 stumbles a bit. I never thought about flagrant, should I have?
You need to catch up I think I'm up to six so far, all in girls games, 4 of the 6 at the varsity level. Two were just a hair short of flagrant....
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 02:39pm
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2nd one last night. A has outrebounded B all night. Late in the game, B1 tries for rebound, falls, and while on the ground grabs A1 by the legs. A1 stumbles a bit. I never thought about flagrant, should I have?
Nah, intentional works just fine here.
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Old Wed Jan 13, 2010, 02:42pm
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Nah, intentional works just fine here.
Agree.
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