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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:30pm
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It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:45pm
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It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
You honestly think there were positive outcomes associated with the behavior shown in that video??? Wow...just, wow.

Everyone has seen/heard/been involved with coaches and teams who think they can get everyone "fired up" by getting a T. Have never bought that, and probably never will. Generally when a T is given to a coach for this type of behavior, the whining and complaining from players increases. If this coach can't find a better way to "fire up" his kids than making an a$$ out of himself and shoving kids around, then yes - an idiot he will be.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:52pm
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But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:56pm
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I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.
Reminds me of the Eustachy melt down against Michigan State a few years ago.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:08pm
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Oh I don't know, being down by 5 and giving up four shots sounds like a great strategy to me.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:44pm
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I wouldn't call giving up four free throws in a game with the result still in doubt to be smart coaching.
OK upon further review, it was only one T at the end of the game but I still don't call that smart.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:47pm
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OK upon further review, it was only one T at the end of the game but I still don't call that smart.
Right, two free throws plus a likely possession.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 01:55pm
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It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
Honestly I do not know what you are, I did not ask. But based on what you are saying and want us to buy, is that this guy is a good guy but loses control when things do not go his way. If this was not a sporting event would his behavior ever be seen as acceptable? Of course not. If he did this in the classroom he would probably have been fired and the school would have been sued. But for some reason we excuse any behavior during a sporting event even if that sporting event is an extension of the educational process. And I do not care what kind of person he is off the court. All I know is what he saw. I think if he had murdered someone in a 30 second video we would not be talking about what a good person he was now. So why do we act like what he showed us was acceptable in this case? He is supposed to be the leader of young men, not acting like a child that lost his toy.

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:15pm
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It's not like I'm the mom at a youth game yelling 'call it both ways, ref!'. I enjoy officiating coaches and players who have a high level of intensity, but I understand why my opinion is not universal. Anyone can call anyone an idiot, its all perspective. I get it. However, I'm suggesting that 30 seconds of video doesn't always tell the story. There is a ton of reading between the lines here. My sole point is: Don't think there are no positive outcomes to his actions, and that you understand the entire context from 30 seconds of video. But, yes, if you feel he is an idiot, an idiot he will be to you.
I'll just tag on to what most have concluded here.............I don't feel he's an idiot, he is an idiot. Nothing you can tell me about this man excuses the behavior he demonstrated on this video. Additionally, you mention that this modus operandi apparently doesn't bother him. That only solidifies his idiot stature.

It's all about him. Pitiful, and you buy into this nonsense.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:22pm
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Because, yeah, name-calling accomplishes SO much....
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:29pm
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Slow Motion video of the play preceeding the 2nd T

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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:38pm
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From this slo mo shot it looks like a clean block, I have nothing but a bad acting job by shooter. As always, from a grainy video, bad angle and 50 feet away.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:42pm
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From this slo mo shot it looks like a clean block, I have nothing but a bad acting job by shooter. As always, from a grainy video, bad angle and 50 feet away.
The block looks clean, but I'm not sure whether he was fould prior to landing by the defender who looks like he's moving towards him. It's hard to tell with this angle, but it looked horrible at full speed.
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The block looks clean, but I'm not sure whether he was fould prior to landing by the defender who looks like he's moving towards him. It's hard to tell with this angle, but it looked horrible at full speed.
Which proves what we've been saying, a video now slowed down, brings us to another conclusion or at least me. I thought in original he may have been fouled coming back to floor but new video seems that defender is off to side.

Goodness, officials were right there, I trust them. There just isn't enough evidence to say for sure.

The only certainty from any speed, any angle is coach remains an idiot.
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Old Tue Jan 12, 2010, 02:40pm
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Based on the angle and the quality of the video, I do not see anything different from what I saw originally. The officials on the game did not call a foul, as far as I am concerned I see nothing that makes this a foul in slow motion.

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