Words can't describe.... this video.

[TheOracle]

This is pretty fascinating. The first video shows what might be a foul, but these types of calls are missed on occasion. The coach flips, gets T'd pretty late. He also could have gotten thrown for continuing to be out of control. The second video shows what I would consider a clear foul. He's not is position, moving towards the shooter, and the shooter goes down hard with the defender ending up where the shooter initiated his shot. It's pretty obvious that even if the ball was touched, he did not have a chance to land. The severity of that play with no whistle, combined with the situation of a close game with less than a minute, does not look good for the crew. IMO, they missed an Oh My God.

Throwing someone after a call was probably missed without a freak out like video #1 doesn't look good. I use T's as a last resort, which is a minority opinion with this crowd. The first one was automatic and could have even been an ejection, but I don't like video 2 at all.

BTW, the facial expression of the C on both of these is poor. Smirking is never professional no mkatter what a coach or player does.

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by icallfouls

1) So you are saying that its not possible for a coach to be correct just because the are farther away or have a different angle?

2) From the video, the players arm was grabbed, and the official was too close to the play, looking back at it.

3) Are you saying that officials are alway right just because they happen to be closer to the play?

4) The official that the tirade was directed at was closer to the coach when he stormed the floor and he failed to make a call.

5)We have all seen plays that officials have failed to make calls on. It is possible that there were previous plays that merited a whistle but were not called that became part of the initial blow up.

6) Quite frankly, they should've run him when he charged the official, then when he had a second blow up after the T.

1) Nope, I'm saying that he hasn't got a good a view as the T and C on this play, and they both passed on the call. That's one of the few facts that we have, as far as I'm concerned. I'm also saying it's ridiculous to go nuts over a call that is that far away from you.

2) Possibly. In cases like this though, I really like to hear the officials' side of it before I say one way or another. I'm funny like that. Note that's officials(plural). I'd like to talk to both the T and the C and ask what they saw. And btw, note that you also can't get unanimity from the officials in this forum watching that clip as to whether a foul occurred or not. Doesn't that tell you something?

3) Nope. I've already stated that it was certainly possible that the T missed the call but that was no reason for the coach to go nutso.

4) Agree. And again, I'd like to talk to the crew before I made up my mind one way or another re: the way the situation was handled.

5) Agree ...and that's another variable missing that stops us from making a final decision re: placing any possible blame on any official.

6) Quite frankly, I agree and that's probably what I would have done.