How About This One

[rockyroad]

Got a call from a buddy to tell me about this play from his daughter's JV game Friday night...

Opening jump (jumpers facing right direction). Tip to Visiting player who takes off toward Home basket (no backcourt violation or anything). V pulls up and shoots 3 pointer - gets hit in arm - ref blows whistle - ball goes in the Home team basket.

Refs huddle up (3 person) and discuss it for a minute or so and then do this (get ready, cause it's pretty good):

1) Count the basket and give Home 3 points.

2)Put V shooter on the line to shoot 1 free throw - AT HOME TEAM'S BASKET!!!

3)V purposefully misses free throw and slams ball off backboard, and refs call a free throw violation and give Home the ball under their own basket!:

Silly monkeys.

[tjones1]

Oh my oh my.... woooooo, rocky, I wish you would have saved this for tomorrow morning. That's better than a cup of coffee.

[APG]

That might just be the silliest administration of free throws I've ever heard. I could see how some might erroneously count the basket and from that I could maybe see them awarded free throws. But to make them shoot the free throws at the WRONG basket? Did they expect the visitors to spot the home team another point?

[mbyron]

Wow! You're right, that is good.

Just think what they might have come up with if they hadn't gotten together first.

[mbyron]

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by mbyron

With any luck, they'll head the proper direction.

Maybe.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction.

mbyron,

So, what you're saying is, other than those few errors, the crew got it right? Correct?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by grunewar

mbyron,

So, what you're saying is, other than those few errors, the crew got it right? Correct?

Exactly!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction.

What foul? What was the disadvantage from the contact?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

What foul? What was the disadvantage from the contact?

I'm going from the point where the foul was called, not challenging the call itself.

[Mark Dexter]

Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Because they're a dexter-head?

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter

Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Instinct?

Just proves the statement:

Some players try to block everything.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by mbyron

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction.

And don't forget that even if the ball goes in, it's only two points. No 3 pointers in the wrong basket.

I gotta tell you that I thought my buddy was making it all up to pull my leg - he's a D-I official - but he was completely serious.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

And don't forget that even if the ball goes in, it's only two points. No 3 pointers in the wrong basket.

I chose not to add that to the current thread, since the foul prevented the basket from counting. I was focused on what the officials should have done in their situation.