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rockyroad Sun Jan 10, 2010 03:25pm

How About This One
 
Got a call from a buddy to tell me about this play from his daughter's JV game Friday night...

Opening jump (jumpers facing right direction). Tip to Visiting player who takes off toward Home basket (no backcourt violation or anything). V pulls up and shoots 3 pointer - gets hit in arm - ref blows whistle - ball goes in the Home team basket.

Refs huddle up (3 person) and discuss it for a minute or so and then do this (get ready, cause it's pretty good):

1) Count the basket and give Home 3 points. :confused:

2)Put V shooter on the line to shoot 1 free throw - AT HOME TEAM'S BASKET!!! :eek:

3)V purposefully misses free throw and slams ball off backboard, and refs call a free throw violation and give Home the ball under their own basket!::mad:

Silly monkeys.

tjones1 Sun Jan 10, 2010 03:33pm

Oh my oh my.... woooooo, rocky, I wish you would have saved this for tomorrow morning. That's better than a cup of coffee.

APG Sun Jan 10, 2010 03:39pm

That might just be the silliest administration of free throws I've ever heard. I could see how some might erroneously count the basket and from that I could maybe see them awarded free throws. But to make them shoot the free throws at the WRONG basket? Did they expect the visitors to spot the home team another point? :confused:

mbyron Sun Jan 10, 2010 03:52pm

Wow! You're right, that is good.

Just think what they might have come up with if they hadn't gotten together first. :D

mbyron Sun Jan 10, 2010 04:40pm

For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

BktBallRef Sun Jan 10, 2010 04:43pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 649784)
With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

Maybe.

grunewar Sun Jan 10, 2010 05:22pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 649784)
For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

mbyron,

So, what you're saying is, other than those few errors, the crew got it right? Correct? ;)

mbyron Sun Jan 10, 2010 06:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 649798)
mbyron,

So, what you're saying is, other than those few errors, the crew got it right? Correct? ;)

Exactly! :D

Raymond Sun Jan 10, 2010 07:33pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 649784)
For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

What foul? What was the disadvantage from the contact?

mbyron Sun Jan 10, 2010 08:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 649828)
What foul? What was the disadvantage from the contact?

I'm going from the point where the foul was called, not challenging the call itself.

Mark Dexter Sun Jan 10, 2010 08:37pm

Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Jurassic Referee Sun Jan 10, 2010 08:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter (Post 649840)
Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Because they're a dexter-head?

just another ref Sun Jan 10, 2010 09:00pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Dexter (Post 649840)
Bigger question - if you're on the home team, why bump the arm of someone who's aiming for your basket?

Instinct?

Just proves the statement:

Some players try to block everything.

rockyroad Sun Jan 10, 2010 09:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 649784)
For those who wonder what should have happened here:

1. Since the "shooter" was not at her team's basket, there was no try, and the foul is thus a common foul.

2. Since it was a common foul, the ball was dead when the player was fouled -- no shot, so no points and no free throws.

3. The fouled team should get the ball for a throw-in. With any luck, they'll head the proper direction. :)

And don't forget that even if the ball goes in, it's only two points. No 3 pointers in the wrong basket.

I gotta tell you that I thought my buddy was making it all up to pull my leg - he's a D-I official - but he was completely serious.

mbyron Sun Jan 10, 2010 09:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 649852)
And don't forget that even if the ball goes in, it's only two points. No 3 pointers in the wrong basket.

I chose not to add that to the current thread, since the foul prevented the basket from counting. I was focused on what the officials should have done in their situation.


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