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is this traveling?
player A dribbles the ball. Play A stops dribbling. His teammate, Player B, comes next to him. Player A holds the ball and player B also holds the ball. Both players do not let go the ball. Player A takes the ball back solely (essentially fakes a handoff pass) and starts dribbling again.
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Welcome to the forum idbtc. I would add to the answers above that if either *A1 or A2 moves beyond the prescribed limits of the traveling rule while they both have (joint) possession of the ball, that player has traveled.
* Around these parts the two teams are normally designated A and B, players of those teams are commonly designated by sequential numbers, thus A1 and A2 rather than A and B. Again, welcome to the forum.
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thanks for the welcome msg and thanks for the replies.
A1 and A2 did not travel while both held the ball together (stood still). A1 never let go of the ball while both him and A2 had the ball together. A1 took sole possession again and start his dribble again. I thought it was a good play (no violation) since A2 clearly had joint possession of the ball even though they are teammates, hence couldn't one argue that possession changed hands and back to A1...hence giving A1 the right to dribble the ball again? I mean, couldn't one argue that the ball was instantly handed off and then back to A1 even though he never let go of the ball?? |
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Rule 9-7. Double Dribble Art. 1. A player shall not dribble a second time after the player’s first dribble has ended, unless the player subsequently loses control because of: a. A try for field goal. b. A bat by an opponent. c. A pass or fumble that has then touched or been touched by another player. In your scenario, A1 never loses control of the ball. Hence, double dribble. |
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RULE 9, SECTION 5 ILLEGAL DRIBBLE A player shall not dribble a second time after his/her first dribble has ended, unless it is after he/she has lost control because of: ART. 1 . . . A try for field goal. ART. 2 . . . A touch by an opponent. ART. 3 . . . A pass or fumble which has then touched, or been touched by, another player. Those are the only actions which permit a second dribble. |
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thanks for all the clarifications and I was wrong to say it is a good play. I'm surprised that the official rules are such that it isn't a good play. I guess one can let go just a bit (lose control) then take the ball back and that would definitely be okay to restart the dribble. That'll work next time.
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Yep! ....same one I referenced back in post #2....
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That does not count, you did not quote the entire rule (at least by his standards).
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