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Old Wed Jan 06, 2010, 11:53am
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I thnk he now has 4 different situations:

1) Ball is either on the basket or in the imaginary cylinder when the net pulling occurs

2) Grabs the net while blocking the shot or pulls on it to avoid players.

No wonder he can't get an answer to his question -- he doesn't know what the question is.

(And, I don't mean that as demeaning to the OP. It's just an example of why precision is important -- sometimes even the difference between "baseline" and "endline" might matter. And, it's an example of how mistaken rulings get passed around.)
Agree. Good point made for everybody about being very specific if you want a correct answer to your question.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2010, 11:43am
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The ball was above the cylindar coming down to the rim and B2 was coming across the lane and it looked like he got caught in the net and was trying to avoid contact with A1 and B1 who were falling to the ground after the foul on the layup/short jump shot.
Okay, now that I've had my caffeine:
"Above the cylinder," to me, implies it was not on the basket. It was above it. BI is not an option here with the net.

From your first post, I'm not sure if the ball hit the rim before the rim returned to it's original position. If the rim was just shaking, which is how you worded it, then I'm assuming the rim never really left it's original position.

No BI.

If the player was trying to protect himself by grabbing the net, you shouldn't call the T either.

It's nothing but the original shooting foul, then.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2010, 12:31pm
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Except for one possible piece that no one has mentioned (or I overlooked it)....

If the basket is grabbed (pulled down) such that the rim has not returned to its normal position when the ball contacts the rim, it is also BI...even if the grab occurs with the ball in the cylinder.
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From your first post, I'm not sure if the ball hit the rim before the rim returned to it's original position. If the rim was just shaking, which is how you worded it, then I'm assuming the rim never really left it's original position.

No BI.
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Old Wed Jan 06, 2010, 10:57am
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... in more detail what "B2 pulls on net while trying to block shot" means.
Grabbing net with one hand and attempting block with the other?
Attempting block, hitting net, getting 'caught' in it and thus pulling it?
What difference does it make in either of those situations?

They're both technical fouls. The only exception is if the player grasped the net to avoid injury, and it's kinda tough to say that if the player is trying to block the ball at the same time.
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