Enforcing Coaching Box

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Is there a diagram/drawing anywhere that shows the exact position of the coaches box?

The following is from the Supplement to Court Diagram in the rules manual:
Optional coaching box – tableside. Bounded by a line 28 feet from end line,
the sideline, a line no more than 14 feet from the 28-foot line, & the team
bench. Located off the court & 2 inches wide.
NOTE: State associations may, on an individual basis, allow alternative bench
locations.

Also Rule 1-13-2 says the same thing.

. . . The coaching box shall be outlined outside the side of the court on
which the scorer's and timer's table and team benches are located. The area shall
be bounded by a line 28 feet from the end line, the sideline, a line no more than
14 feet from the 28-foot line toward the end line, and the team bench. These lines
shall be located off the court, be 2 inches wide.
NOTE: State associations may alter the length and placement of the 14-foot (maximum)
coaching box.

[Nevadaref]

http://www.miaa.net/Bskcoachingbox-diagram.pdf

From MA.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Also Rule 1-13-2 says the same thing.

. . . The coaching box shall be outlined outside the side of the court on
which the scorer's and timer's table and team benches are located. The area shall be bounded by a line 28 feet from the end line, the sideline, a line no more than 14 feet from the 28-foot line toward the end line, and the team bench. These lines shall be located off the court, be 2 inches wide.
NOTE: State associations may alter the length and placement of the 14-foot (maximum) coaching box.

I didn't notice it till now about the WIAA adopting the use of the Coaches Box, of course I haven't seen any coach get whacked yet this year either.

When I go in for the next game, I'll have to check to see if the Coaches Box is marked or not.

Speaking of required floor markings, before the last game I did mention to the AD about the "X" in front of the official scorer. His response was that nothing had been said about it & not to worry about it.

Yet the Rule book says:
SECTION 17 “X” LOCATES SCORER
An “X” 12 inches long and 2 inches wide shall be placed on the floor out of
bounds directly in front of the official scorer to help substitutes with the proper location.

Should I just let bygones by bygones?

[truerookie]

Originally Posted by chseagle

Speaking of required floor markings, before the last game I did mention to the AD about the "X" in front of the official scorer. His response was that nothing had been said about it & not to worry about it.

Yet the Rule book says:
SECTION 17 “X” LOCATES SCORER
An “X” 12 inches long and 2 inches wide shall be placed on the floor out of
bounds directly in front of the official scorer to help substitutes with the proper location.

Should I just let bygones by bygones?

No, just say. I understand nothing been said before probably because others may not have noticed it. It is required please place on down or the game will not start without it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by truerookie

No, just say. I understand nothing been said before probably because others may not have noticed it. It is required please place on down or the game will not start without it.

There's no penalty listed for not having it (in FED games).

chseagle should leave it up to the officials.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There's no penalty listed for not having it (in FED games).

chseagle should leave it up to the officials.

I wrote an e-mail to the state director over basketball asking about it. How I stated it in the e-mail is that the gyms I have been in do not have it marked, nor have the ones I have seen in the media (tv & newspaper).

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by chseagle

I wrote an e-mail to the state director over basketball asking about it. How I stated it in the e-mail is that the gyms I have been in do not have it marked, nor have the ones I have seen in the media (tv & newspaper).

Really? IMO, that's NOT the way to get yourself promoted to the varsity games at your local school.

[chseagle]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Really? IMO, that's NOT the way to get yourself promoted to the varsity games at your local school.

I asked what the state association rules were as I know there are differences between the NFHS Rules & those the WIAA uses.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

There's no penalty listed for not having it (in FED games).

chseagle should leave it up to the officials.

What Bob said. Use of the coaching box is optional by state association adoption, and how it is handled if the box isn't marked is their venue as well. In Oregon we have specific instructions that the game will not start until the coaching box is marked.

As to how to handle the original question posed by coach41, my first step is either a quiet "coach, don't forget the box" or making eye contact, pointing at where he is and then at the box - depends on the specific circumstances at the time. Step two is to warn & step three a technical foul.

I suppose we could always ask for a new rule to install an anchor in the center of the box with a 7 foot lead attached to a belt or harness for the coach.....think they would go for it?

[Thumper68]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

What Bob said. Use of the coaching box is optional by state association adoption, and how it is handled if the box isn't marked is their venue as well. In Oregon we have specific instructions that the game will not start until the coaching box is marked.

As to how to handle the original question posed by coach41, my first step is either a quiet "coach, don't forget the box" or making eye contact, pointing at where he is and then at the box - depends on the specific circumstances at the time. Step two is to warn & step three a technical foul.

I suppose we could always ask for a new rule to install an anchor in the center of the box with a 7 foot lead attached to a belt or harness for the coach.....think they would go for it?

Or perhaps a enclosed cage. One with a top so that they couldn't crawl out!

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by Thumper68

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Or perhaps a enclosed cage. One with a top so that they couldn't crawl out!

I thought of that, but figured it would constitute too much of a hazard to the players - then again so might my bungee cord idea. We need to come up with a better approach...........how about the invisible fence & shock collar they use to keep pets in the yard.......

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by TimTaylor

In Oregon we have specific instructions that the game will not start until the coaching box is marked.

Here's how we handle it in Connecticut:

Coaching Box must be marked. If home coach and/or home management refuse to designate coaching box with tape, the home team will not use a coaching box for that game. However, the visiting team will be allowed a coaching box. Notify Board Secretary, or Commissioner the next day.

The old excuse was, "The custodians won't let us put tape on the gymnasium floor. It discolors the finish on the floor."