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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 02:41pm
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Violations/Fouls that you ignore

Just wondering what violations and fouls that we frequently ignore or overlook.

For example, after a made basket, I will frequently overlook an end line violation when the other team is quickly inbounding the ball (no defensive pressure) and their foot is slightly over the line.

I'm curious about situations where common sense overrides "the book".

Thoughts?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 02:46pm
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Just wondering what violations and fouls that we frequently ignore or overlook.

For example, after a made basket, I will frequently overlook an end line violation when the other team is quickly inbounding the ball (no defensive pressure) and their foot is slightly over the line.

I'm curious about situations where common sense overrides "the book".

Thoughts?
Why ignore it?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 02:48pm
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How about a player going in for a layup when they're surrounded by 2-3 defensive players by traveling?
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How about a player going in for a layup when they're surrounded by 2-3 defensive players by traveling?
I know of no officials who purposely igore that.
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how about a player going in for a layup when they're surrounded by 2-3 defensive players by traveling?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:00pm
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I know of no officials who purposely igore that.
I've seen it happen a couple of times, a player is going in for a layup or a very close shot to the basket, being guarded by 2-3 defenders closely, traveling.

Of course, in this case it may be hard to see the violation due to the amount of bodies in the area.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:04pm
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I've seen it happen a couple of times, a player is going in for a layup or a very close shot to the basket, being guarded by 2-3 defenders closely, traveling.

Of course, in this case it may be hard to see the violation due to the amount of bodies in the area.
I think you are Off-topic here. You're talking about a judgement call and the officials judged it to be a legal play.

The OP is talking about obvious violations or fouls that get ignored for one reason or another.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:11pm
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For example, after a made basket, I will frequently overlook an end line violation when the other team is quickly inbounding the ball (no defensive pressure) and their foot is slightly over the line.

I'm curious about situations where common sense overrides "the book".
Common sense?

The FED direction on your example above is "Whether or not there was defensive pressure or whether or not stepping on the court was inadverent, it is a violation and NO judgment is required in making the call"

Iirc the NCAA issued a similar directive.

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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:16pm
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Just wondering what violations and fouls that we frequently ignore or overlook.

For example, after a made basket, I will frequently overlook an end line violation when the other team is quickly inbounding the ball (no defensive pressure) and their foot is slightly over the line.

I'm curious about situations where common sense overrides "the book".

Thoughts?
Over the line = violation. Man up and call it.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:22pm
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10 second FT violation

Similar discussion......
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:25pm
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But to answer your OP question.

I can't think of a situation where I'd ignore a violation.

Your wording is wrong. I will ignore contact in certain situations, I'm not ignoring a foul.

Examples: A1 starts a drive from top of key, B1 blocks but A1 is now past the defender and has an open layup. No advantage gained.

A1 is finishing a layup and is grazed on the arm by B1. If the ball goes in I ignore the contact. If it rolls out B1 gained an advantage from the contact.

Fast break situation starting in BC. A1 passes the ball to a streaking A2 who has an uncontested layup. B1 fouls A1 as he's passing. If the ball reaches A2 without affecting the play, no foul.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:25pm
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Given the response thus far, I doubt if there will be any further inputs to this thread.

Oh well.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:28pm
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Given the response thus far, I doubt if there will be any further inputs to this thread.

Oh well.
What kind of response did you want? A list of violations to ignore?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:35pm
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Iíll ignore sliding on a poorly maintained slipper floor.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:38pm
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Try this...

We don't overlook fouls. We do not call incidental contact a foul either.

That's common sense imo.
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