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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:25pm
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Given the response thus far, I doubt if there will be any further inputs to this thread.

Oh well.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:28pm
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Given the response thus far, I doubt if there will be any further inputs to this thread.

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What kind of response did you want? A list of violations to ignore?
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:35pm
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I’ll ignore sliding on a poorly maintained slipper floor.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:38pm
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Try this...

We don't overlook fouls. We do not call incidental contact a foul either.

That's common sense imo.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:40pm
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How about violations that appear to be ignored.

One that I see a lot, especially in college ball is travels on the spin move. A real common one is when a post player receives the feed and drops the inside foot to the basket and then turns to face the basket and plants both feet and jumps and shoots. This is absolutely a travel, but is rarely called.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 04:07pm
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The obvious one is three seconds. Another is the 10 second free throw violation. Also hitting the net while the ball is on its way through the basket. But these don't go completely unnoticed, and I will make the call if the situation actually warrants it. So not really ignored, just very leniently enforced

As for fouls, those I don't ignore. However, the determination of advantage/disadvantage can vary widely between age levels, skill levels, or even from game to game or from one part of a game to another. I know that last phrase sounds like I'm promoting inconsistency, but sometimes an otherwise decent game begins to tank and you have to tighten up to keep it under control, or there are times where you have to go get a "game control foul" that you normally wouldn't call.
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How about violations that appear to be ignored.

One that I see a lot, especially in college ball is travels on the spin move. A real common one is when a post player receives the feed and drops the inside foot to the basket and then turns to face the basket and plants both feet and jumps and shoots. This is absolutely a travel, but is rarely called.
Ugh! It's called when I see it; and I've been gently reminded when I've missed it (by observing officials).
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 12:06pm
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I ignore an opponent of the free throw shooter stepping into the lane early if the basket is made

I also ignore calling a "kicked ball" if it imediately goes out of bounds
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 12:17pm
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I also ignore calling a "kicked ball" if it imediately goes out of bounds
I can think of two situations where you shouldn't do this.
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I can think of two situations where you shouldn't do this.
I can think of one, during an AP throw-in. What would be the other?
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 12:20pm
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I can think of two situations where you shouldn't do this.

1.) If there is a shot clock
2.) If the ball goes out of bounds at a spot that gives the "kicker's" team an advantage.
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Old Thu Dec 31, 2009, 12:51pm
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I ignore an opponent of the free throw shooter stepping into the lane early if the basket is made

I also ignore calling a "kicked ball" if it imediately goes out of bounds
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I can think of two situations where you shouldn't do this.
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I can think of one, during an AP throw-in. What would be the other?
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1.) If there is a shot clock
2.) If the ball goes out of bounds at a spot that gives the "kicker's" team an advantage.
I don't really care about shot clocks, but I suppose that's a third situation. Welpe has one, during an AP throwin.

The other is when the throwing team has an endline throwin. If the first touch in bounds is a defensive kick, and the ensuing spot would be on the same endline, the throwing team gets an end line throwin rather than a spot throwin.

If you simply rule out of bounds on the defense, then you've simply got a spot throwin.
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I ignore flagrant fouls that result in reconstructive surgery. They're just too much fun to observe when they happen. I don't want to discourage them.
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I can think of two situations where you shouldn't do this.
Do "kicked ball" calls always require determining if it was intentional or not ?
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Do "kicked ball" calls always require determining if it was intentional or not ?
It is not a "kicked ball" violation if the kick isn't intentional.
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