Designated spot after timeout / made basket?

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Coaches talk "Coachese" and officials talk "Officialese". One language is not any better, or any worse, than the other one. When officials talk to other officials we use terms like "endline", "request a timeout", etc. When coaches talk to other coaches, or players, they use terms like "baseline", "call a timeout", etc. No problems until coaches and officials have to talk to each other. That's when we need the Rosetta Stone.

Nonsense. When coaches/fans use phrases like "baseline", "walking", "over the back", "reach", etc. 94.73% of us know exactly what they're referring to, even though we don't use the same verbiage. Most of us ain't that stoopid that we can't translate coachese without throwing a hissy fit at the same time.

I'm probably in the minority, but to me it's just another in a very long list of things that I basically could give a damn about when it comes to officiating. There's one helluva lot more important things to worry about when we're out there with a whistle in our mouth and not a friend in the building except our partner(s)..(and that's hopefully).

Yes, our fellow officials should use the proper verbiage. And that includes not using "on the floor" because it just doesn't apply in all cases. But what difference does it really make if coaches or fans use some different descriptive words than we do and we still understand what they're trying to say to us?

Much ado about nuthin' imho.....

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Our fellow officials should use the proper verbiage.

Especially in an training setting. It's important that new officials know that "on the floor", may, or may not, be the same as a player being fouled in the act of shooting. That "calling" a timeout involves both a request and a granting of such. That a "reach" may, or may not, be the same as an illegal use of hands. That "over the back" may, or may not, be the same as a push. Also, we better not be telling new officials to use the phrase "wait 'til hits the rim". As far as "endline" or "baseline", I really don't think it matters.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

Nonsense. When coaches/fans use phrases like "baseline", "walking", "over the back", "reach", etc. 94.73% of us know exactly what they're referring to, even though we don't use the same verbiage. Most of us ain't that stoopid that we can't translate coachese without throwing a hissy fit at the same time.

I'm probably in the minority, but to me it's just another in a very long list of things that I basically could give a damn about when it comes to officiating. There's one helluva lot more important things to worry about when we're out there with a whistle in our mouth and not a friend in the building except our partner(s)..(and that's hopefully).

Yes, our fellow officials should use the proper verbiage. And that includes not using "on the floor" because it just doesn't apply in all cases. But what difference does it really make if coaches or fans use some different descriptive words than we do and we still understand what they're trying to say to us?

Much ado about nuthin' imho.....

Agreed. If the coach asks me if the throw in is on th base line, I tell him / her "yes."

If the coach asks where the throw-in is, I say "On the end-line." S/he understands.

:shrug:

[mutantducky]

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[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If the coach asks me if the throw in is on the base line, I tell him / her "yes."

What? You seriously mean that you don't take this opportunity to enlighten the coach in regard to what the correct terminology is? It just takes a few minutes to show him that the word baseline never appears in the rulebook and if you have time, the casebook, whereas the word endline appears in multiple rulebook and casebook situations. Plus, you let an opportunity slip through your fingers to point out to the coach, in a very sarcastic manner, "Coach. Baselines are in baseball. This is a basketball game". If we don't take care of business coaches all over the world will never know the difference between a baseline and an endline. And what a sad state of basketball affairs that would truly be.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

What? You seriously mean that you don't take this opportunity to enlighten the coach in regard to what the correct terminology is?

No, I don't.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

No, I don't.

It was a rhetorical question.