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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:09am
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I, for one, encourage you to continue studying and learning all you can about the rules of the game. However, be mindful of the boundaries of your duties while working the table. Just because you understand the rules does not mean that unsolicited "help" is helpful or welcome.
I'm only guilty of being an off-the-floor official when watching a game on TV. The only rules that I pay close attention to at the table is of course those that have to deal with what I'm doing at the table, except for the periodic uniform or safety concerns.

I'll leave the full unsolicited "help" to the coaches LMAO
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:18am
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I'm only guilty of being an off-the-floor official when watching a game on TV. The only rules that I pay close attention to at the table is of course those that have to deal with what I'm doing at the table, except for the periodic uniform or safety concerns.

I'll leave the full unsolicited "help" to the coaches LMAO
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 03:28am
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This is what we're talking about.
It's not something that happens every game. I'm doing more out of sight, out of mind when it comes to this, the last time I did anything like this was last year.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 06:49am
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This is what we're talking about.
Exactly. The table crew needs to stick to their responsibilities under 2-11 and 2-12 and let the game officials deal with what they are responsible for. I'm far more impressed with someone that shows up on time and does their job conscientiously and consistently, as opposed to those who for some reason (ego?; self-importance?) try to impress people with how much they think they know, especially when the reality is they really don't know as much as they think they do and understand far less. Don't get me wrong, I encourage and applaud anyone that wants to become a student of the game to expand their knowledge and understanding of basketball - just use it appropriately.

Sometimes I think people forget that the game isn't about the coaches, the officials, the table crew or the fans - it's about the players.
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sometimes i think people forget that the game isn't about the coaches, the officials, the table crew or the fans - it's about the players.
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Old Wed Dec 30, 2009, 10:06am
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Exactly. The table crew needs to stick to their responsibilities under 2-11 and 2-12 and let the game officials deal with what they are responsible for. I'm far more impressed with someone that shows up on time and does their job conscientiously and consistently, as opposed to those who for some reason (ego?; self-importance?) try to impress people with how much they think they know, especially when the reality is they really don't know as much as they think they do and understand far less. Don't get me wrong, I encourage and applaud anyone that wants to become a student of the game to expand their knowledge and understanding of basketball - just use it appropriately.

Sometimes I think people forget that the game isn't about the coaches, the officials, the table crew or the fans - it's about the players.

Table crews that try to dictate to the officials drive me crazy -- substitutes after I've beckoned them, for example. I'll catch the occasional sub walking towards the X and I'll whistle them in (during FT administration, normally). During a game earlier this season, I had a timer try to tell the subs *after* I beckoned them in that they had to go down to the X and report.

I then asked the home book if they had any problems getting the subs. Guy said no. I turned to the timer and said, "then when I say they're in, they're in."

Keeping the clock is a hard job. It was for me the 2-3 times I've done it. Do your job, I'll do mine.
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