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Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 05:01pm

OT: Contacting an official
 
It's OT, because it's football. I'm watching the Broncos go through part of the process of pissing their playoff hopes away (won't be complete until next week), and Brandon Stokely just took exception to a no-call on what he thought was pass interference. He ran about 40 yards to confront the Back Judge.

As he walked away in disgust, he threw his arms, contacting the official's outstretched hand.

Bye-bye

BktBallRef Sun Dec 27, 2009 05:02pm

Yep, easy call, REAL stupid move.

representing Sun Dec 27, 2009 05:56pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646208)
It's OT, because it's football. I'm watching the Broncos go through part of the process of pissing their playoff hopes away (won't be complete until next week), and Brandon Stokely just took exception to a no-call on what he thought was pass interference. He ran about 40 yards to confront the Back Judge.

As he walked away in disgust, he threw his arms, contacting the official's outstretched hand.

Bye-bye

did he get ejected? I didn't catch that because I'm flipping through channels. Eagles fan here, but this game is a definite win and my interest isn't high enough to keep it on.

Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:04pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646232)
did he get ejected? I didn't catch that because I'm flipping through channels. Eagles fan here, but this game is a definite win and my interest isn't high enough to keep it on.

Yep. He got tossed. Stupid move for a veteran player.

representing Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:23pm

My brother just told me he saw it happen in the other room. He said it didn't look like it was intentional and that it probably shouldn't have been an ejection.

I don't know though, I didn't see it but will probably see it on ESPN or Comcast SN tomorrow morning

Raymond Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:28pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646239)
My brother just told me he saw it happen in the other room. He said it didn't look like it was intentional and that it probably shouldn't have been an ejection.

I don't know though, I didn't see it but will probably see it on ESPN or Comcast SN tomorrow morning

Stokely INTENTIONALLY swung in the direction of the official.

Just like I tell my kids, don't throw rocks in the neighborhood and then say it's an accident when you break a window.

Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:34pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646239)
My brother just told me he saw it happen in the other room. He said it didn't look like it was intentional and that it probably shouldn't have been an ejection.

I don't know though, I didn't see it but will probably see it on ESPN or Comcast SN tomorrow morning

Whether he hit him intentionally doesn't matter. Did he aim for him? No. Did he swing purposefully in the direction of the official's hand? Definitely. He did it in anger, and I'm pretty sure it was preceded by some choice words. My understanding is that contacting an official is a judgment-free call.

Berkut Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:46pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646242)
Whether he hit him intentionally doesn't matter. Did he aim for him? No. Did he swing purposefully in the direction of the official's hand? Definitely. He did it in anger, and I'm pretty sure it was preceded by some choice words. My understanding is that contacting an official is a judgment-free call.

Kind of has to be, doesn't it? Last thing we need is any kind of debate about whether someone "accidentally" hit an official - that just raises the possibility of getting away with taking a shot if you can pretend it was an "accident".

Adam Sun Dec 27, 2009 06:50pm

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Originally Posted by Berkut (Post 646246)
Kind of has to be, doesn't it? Last thing we need is any kind of debate about whether someone "accidentally" hit an official - that just raises the possibility of getting away with taking a shot if you can pretend it was an "accident".

That's exactly right. I can't wait to hear the local sports radio guys complain about it tomorrow on my way home from work, though.

bradfordwilkins Sun Dec 27, 2009 07:26pm

Video of Brandon Stokley Ref Contact and Ejection

Not sure honestly -- I don't know what he said and that alone could've been grounds for dismissal... but the contacting the official here seems a little finger to finger to me... I really don't know.

mbyron Sun Dec 27, 2009 07:44pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646249)
That's exactly right. I can't wait to hear the local sports radio guys complain about it tomorrow on my way home from work, though.

I predict that the league will use the expression "zero tolerance."

grunewar Sun Dec 27, 2009 07:55pm

And they should
 
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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 646256)
I predict that the league will use the expression "zero tolerance."

It was just stupid.

fullor30 Sun Dec 27, 2009 08:03pm

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Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins (Post 646254)
Video of Brandon Stokley Ref Contact and Ejection

Not sure honestly -- I don't know what he said and that alone could've been grounds for dismissal... but the contacting the official here seems a little finger to finger to me... I really don't know.


Please replay and get back to us.

Jurassic Referee Sun Dec 27, 2009 08:17pm

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Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins (Post 646254)
Not sure honestly -- I don't know what he said and that alone could've been grounds for dismissal... but the contacting the official here seems a little finger to finger to me... I really don't know.

That one is a no-brainer in ANY league. You do NOT contact any official that way. You start letting things like that go and it's open season on officials.

APG Sun Dec 27, 2009 08:30pm

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Originally Posted by bradfordwilkins (Post 646254)
Video of Brandon Stokley Ref Contact and Ejection

Not sure honestly -- I don't know what he said and that alone could've been grounds for dismissal... but the contacting the official here seems a little finger to finger to me... I really don't know.

You telling me if a player does this to you, you're not automatically dumping the player? This one seemed pretty cut and dry to me.


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