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Adam Mon Dec 28, 2009 01:12pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646419)
I just thought of something. Never happened to me, I've seen it done in professional and college football with the "touchdown" signal.

Shooter shoots a three and makes it. I have both of my hands up to signal a successful three point shot. Player comes over and slaps my hands as a high five touch. Technical?

Hmmm. Not the first time, I don't think. My first instinct on this is a very stern warning to the player not to do that in the future.

representing Mon Dec 28, 2009 01:57pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646420)
Hmmm. Not the first time, I don't think. My first instinct on this is a very stern warning to the player not to do that in the future.

hm, I would probably do the same thing. I'm not very sure. But if you did T him up, the coach would be more mad towards the player and not you, wouldn't you agree?

Mark Padgett Mon Dec 28, 2009 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646419)
I just thought of something. Never happened to me, I've seen it done in professional and college football with the "touchdown" signal.

Shooter shoots a three and makes it. I have both of my hands up to signal a successful three point shot. Player comes over and slaps my hands as a high five touch. Technical?

Sounds like something out of the "High Stress Ref" video. :D

j51969 Mon Dec 28, 2009 02:03pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646426)
hm, I would probably do the same thing. I'm not very sure. But if you did T him up, the coach would be more mad towards the player and not you, wouldn't you agree?

Your kidding right?

representing Mon Dec 28, 2009 02:46pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 646430)
Your kidding right?

not really, why?

What do we read before each game?

Sportsmanship Message:
"Actions meant to demean opposing contestants, teams, spectators, and OFFICIALS are not in the highest ideals of interscholastic education and will not be tolerated."

Coaches should know that and be mad at their own players for their stupidity. If a coach were to get mad at me, I'll just say "hey coach, you were there when I (or my partner) read the sportsmanship message before the game."

Adam Mon Dec 28, 2009 02:52pm

If you think the act was meant to demean you, then you're right. I don't see it that way, though. I see it as one of two things, most likely.

1. Taunting.
2. Emotional reaction to a big shot; and he sees a hand and thinks it's a teammate.

As the new lead, though, he'd have to chase me down to give me a high five, and by the time he reached me my hands would be down. If I'm C, maybe possible, but my hands are only up for a couple of seconds.

representing Mon Dec 28, 2009 03:01pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646449)
1. Taunting.

Taunting who? the referee or the opponent? Either way it would be unsporting.

But like you said, I would have to see how it worked out. Stern warning would suffice enough.

representing Mon Dec 28, 2009 03:03pm

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Originally Posted by Mark Padgett (Post 646429)
Sounds like something out of the "High Stress Ref" video. :D

That's where i got the question. Towards the end one of the players comes up and gives a high five or ten and they do all that hand clapping routine stuff.

j51969 Mon Dec 28, 2009 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by representing (Post 646443)
not really, why?

What do we read before each game?

Sportsmanship Message:
"Actions meant to demean opposing contestants, teams, spectators, and OFFICIALS are not in the highest ideals of interscholastic education and will not be tolerated."

Coaches should know that and be mad at their own players for their stupidity. If a coach were to get mad at me, I'll just say "hey coach, you were there when I (or my partner) read the sportsmanship message before the game."

If you whacked a kid for giving you a high-five I don't believe the initial reaction from the coach will be to chew the player @ss. That's why I said, "Are you kidding?" I am not debating the validity of the T itself. I just can't see you not getting an ear full first.

jdw3018 Mon Dec 28, 2009 03:15pm

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Originally Posted by j51969 (Post 646463)
If you whacked a kid for giving you a high-five I don't believe the initial reaction from the coach will be to chew the player @ss. That's why I said, "Are you kidding?" I am not debating the validity of the T itself. I just can't see you not getting an ear full first.

Just depends on who the coach is. I know my high school coach would have torn my arm off and bludgeoned me with it before the official could whack me...

BillyMac Mon Dec 28, 2009 07:38pm

I Hope I Don't Get Ejected, Or Worse, Arrested ...
 
Since the introduction of the alternating possession arrow, the following has happened to me on two occasions. I call a held ball, while my thumbs are still up in the air, I look intently at the arrow at the table, and respond by immediately bringing an arm down to point in the proper direction, hitting a player on the head.

Back In The Saddle Tue Dec 29, 2009 12:23am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 646449)
If you think the act was meant to demean you, then you're right. I don't see it that way, though. I see it as one of two things, most likely.

1. Taunting.
2. Emotional reaction to a big shot; and he sees a hand and thinks it's a teammate.

As the new lead, though, he'd have to chase me down to give me a high five, and by the time he reached me my hands would be down. If I'm C, maybe possible, but my hands are only up for a couple of seconds.

3. Player being a smart ***. That would be why I would do it. ;)


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