New FT mechanic

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

. . . He said he hated being that close to the benches . . .

Some might feel uncomfortable being "that close to the benches", but it might not be the fault of the mechanic, but of the implimentation of it.
Actually, if the trail on a free throw was in a position to observe both the free thrower's feet and the two upper lane spaces opposite the lane, he wouldn't necessarily be "that close to the benches" after all.
Most of the guys I've heard complaining about this are way out by the sideline, far to far away from being able to view what they need to observe as trail during a free throw.
Maybe we could call on Billy Mac would put a dot on the rocketship diagram to illustrate this proper position. Unless the diagram is inaccurate in its proportions, the trail wouldn't be "that close to the benches" afterall.
Anybody else sense this?

[bas2456]

I don't mind it. I personally haven't had any problems with coaches talking to me after calling a foul on his/her team. The only time I had a problem with a coach was while I was walking to the table to report the foul.

I've gotten in the habit of glancing at the table at every potential sub opportunity, so it's no big deal to me to look behind me at the table when I'm in T.

That's just me though...

[Back In The Saddle]

We're using it.

I have had no negative bench/coach issues with being that close. In fact, I had a rather positive one just last night as a coach was able to get something off his mind while he had my ear.

The subs issue hasn't been that much of an issue. You get used to looking. The L helps out.

What I don't like about it is that it feels like we go lengthy stretches of time without switching. Perhaps it's because the same team tends to run the same plays, which lead to the same fouls called by the same official which keeps him in the same spot. I've started to pre-game that if we haven't switched for two fouls in a row, we're going to switch regardless of the mechanic.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Back In The Saddle

In fact, I had a rather positive one just last night as a coach was able to get something off his mind while he had my ear.

And this is a "positive" why? Plus, you're assuming that coaches have minds.

[Back In The Saddle]

It was a positive because he was able to express his concern quietly, calmly, while it was still a lizard. It never had a chance to grow into a dragon.

But you got me on the "coaches have minds" thing

[zm1283]

I thought initially that the tableside mechanic might be trouble, but it really hasn't been. In my experience so far, coaches are asking questions more and being more civil rather than chirping across the court. I think they feel like they have to be more reasonable if you're standing closer to them. That may just be me though.

I do agree though with whoever said that you shouldn't be standing right on the sideline. During FTs as Trail, I'm about half way between the sideline and the near side of the lane.

[Adam]

If I had my preference, I'd do this mechanic. I liked table side in 3 person, too, though. I think it's asinine, however, that they move opposite in 3 person just as they go tableside in 2. Really?

IAABO isn't doing the table side 2, however, so now it all matches again.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by zm1283

... I think they feel like they have to be more reasonable if you're standing closer to them.
...

Do the coaches act any differently in the 2nd half when you are no longer standing reasonably close to them after you call fouls on their defense?

[Scratch85]

I still do not like the 2-whistle mechanic. It's not because of the trail but the lead. On a FT, I actually backed out of the lane opposite table in a 3-whistle game last night.

I had a run of about 3 2-whistle games and I guess it rubbed off. My partners had a good laugh and I was embarrassed.

For years, I have gone tableside as lead on a FT whether it is 2-whistle or 3-whistle. Now they change it on me. I want it changed back!

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Scratch85

I still do not like the 2-whistle mechanic. It's not because of the trail but the lead. On a FT, I actually backed out of the lane opposite table in a 3-whistle game last night.

I think this is less noticeable than a Trail who is used to 2-whistle reporting a foul and then running across the court, only to wave to C and turn around.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Freddy

... the rocketship diagram ...

Now you're in trouble Freddy. Just changing uppercase letters to lower case letters, and making two words into one word, does not excuse you from copyright infringement. Back In The Saddle's legal people will be contacting your people on Monday morning. Back In The Saddle gave his people a four day weekend to celebrate Festivus.

"The Rocket Ship Diagram" © 2009, Back In The Saddle
The use of the phrase, "The Rocket Ship Diagram", without the express written consent of Back In The Saddle is strictly prohibited.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Back In The Saddle gave his people a four day weekend to celebrate Festivus.

What are you talking about? It's not Festivus!!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by tjones1

What are you talking about? It's not Festivus.

It certainly is. What else is celebrated on December 23?

Happy Festivus

To celebrate the holiday season, a donation has been made in your name to the Human Fund.

Festivus For The Rest Of Us

[tjones1]

My bad, Billy... I thought it had already passed!! Oops

[Freddy]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

. . . changing uppercase letters to lower case letters, and making two words into one word . . .

I didn't say "Kleenex", I said "tissue". I didn't say "Bayer", I said "aspirin". I didn't say "Budweiser", I said "beer." I didn't say "Rocket Ship Diagram", I said "rocketship diagram."
Admittedly, I shouldn't have preceeded it with the definite pronoun "the". Besides, I don't know how to do the font with the little "c" in a circle.
How 'bout just put a dot on any old rocketshipdiagram you can cut and paste?