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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 12:52pm
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I would say one T.

I guess Nevada is either on holiday break/vacation or his computer is broke.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 12:58pm
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I guess Nevada is either on holiday break/vacation or his computer is broke.
Way too much fun stuff on here for him to be absent this morning...
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:02pm
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I don't have a problem with one technical... I would certainly talk to both players.

Buuuut, if you only call one... who would you call it on? To make it easier, lets say A1 is being lifted/climbing and A5 is the lifter.

I agree, jdw.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:03pm
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I would call it on the lifter.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:05pm
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I would call it on the lifter.
Interesting. I'd probably call it on the jumper-offer (I intentionally chose this term).

I'd call it on the jumper-offer if he climbed up a teammate without that teammate's permission, so I'm just going to keep it consistent here.

Or, I'll make them rochambeau for it.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:06pm
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I'd call it on the jumper-offer if he climbed up a teammate without that teammate's permission, so I'm just going to keep it consistent here.

Or, I'll make them rochambeau for it.
Great minds. I was typing my "scenario" while you posted this response.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:05pm
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I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:11pm
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I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.
As I stated, I'd call it on A2 in the first.

In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:15pm
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In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?
Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?
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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:13pm
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Interesting. I'd probably call it on the jumper-offer (I intentionally chose this term).

I'd call it on the jumper-offer if he climbed up a teammate without that teammate's permission, so I'm just going to keep it consistent here.

Or, I'll make them rochambeau for it.
Rochambeau or roshambo? I'm just asking for a friend.

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I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.
1) Technical on A2.
2) Technical on A2.

Edit: A little late to the party, Upward ref. But, thanks for posting... welcome to the forum!!

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Old Wed Dec 23, 2009, 01:15pm
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Rochambeau or roshambo? I'm just asking for a friend.
I believe either is acceptable.
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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 12:31am
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I have actually called this. 1A (I think) All star game at the end of the season three or four years ago. A1 went off of A2's bak on all 4's.... Easy T
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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 02:09pm
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I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.
Play 1, I agree T on A2. A1 didn't do anything to penalize.

Play 2, is either intentional personal or flagrant personal. I'll side with flagrant because I can't imagine keeping somebody around who steps on an opponent intentionally.

It can't be a T (if the ball is live), because the T is for teammates climbing on or lifting. A2 and B1 are not teammates.
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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 02:15pm
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Play 1, I agree T on A2. A1 didn't do anything to penalize.

Play 2, is either intentional personal or flagrant personal. I'll side with flagrant because I can't imagine keeping somebody around who steps on an opponent intentionally.

It can't be a T (if the ball is live), because the T is for teammates climbing on or lifting. A2 and B1 are not teammates.
Good catch! I agree.....
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Old Thu Dec 24, 2009, 02:16pm
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I have become very intolerant of player behavior that is unsporting. I possess no shyness about wacking the little rat*******s when they start with the complaining about calls. I usually give one loud verbal warning that is for all the players to hear and then its time to pull the trigger. We have some issues in athletics here in Northern Ohio with unsporting behavior too. And its not just basketball. A Varsity Football game was suspended and later declared a double forfeit because of a fight that started on the field between four players and expanded quickly throught the stadium. Pretty scary stuff for the officials.
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