Unsporting Acts

[tomegun]

I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.

As I stated, I'd call it on A2 in the first.

In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

In the second, would you consider a flagrant T?

Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tomegun

Good question. Can there be a flagrant T involving contact during a live ball?

Hmm. Not for contact. So, flagrant personal?

This is basically intentionally stepping on an opponent. I think I'd go w/ flagrant here.

[tjones1]

Agree - flagrant personal.

[tomegun]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Hmm. Not for contact. So, flagrant personal?

This is basically intentionally stepping on an opponent. I think I'd go w/ flagrant here.

I think if you are going to go flagrant, flagrant personal.

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I think if you are going to go flagrant, flagrant personal.

Yep. We would actually be penalizing the act of stepping on an opponent (flagrant personal) rather than the act of jumping off someone (technical).

[Back In The Saddle]

JMHO,

If I were going with a flagrant on this, it would be a flagrant T. I'm not penalizing the contact per se, which was not "of a violent or savage nature." I'm penalizing the player's unsporting behavior.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by jdw3018

Interesting. I'd probably call it on the jumper-offer (I intentionally chose this term).

I'd call it on the jumper-offer if he climbed up a teammate without that teammate's permission, so I'm just going to keep it consistent here.

Or, I'll make them rochambeau for it.

Rochambeau or roshambo? I'm just asking for a friend.

Originally Posted by tomegun

I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.

1) Technical on A2.
2) Technical on A2.

Edit: A little late to the party, Upward ref. But, thanks for posting... welcome to the forum!!

[jdw3018]

Originally Posted by tjones1

Rochambeau or roshambo? I'm just asking for a friend.

I believe either is acceptable.

[Kelvin green]

I have actually called this. 1A (I think) All star game at the end of the season three or four years ago. A1 went off of A2's bak on all 4's.... Easy T

[sseltser]

Originally Posted by tomegun

I guess we are still on unsporting acts while straying.

What if: A1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off A1's back and dunks.

What if: B1 legitimately falls to the floor and is on all fours. A2 drives to the basket, jumps off B1's back and dunks.

Play 1, I agree T on A2. A1 didn't do anything to penalize.

Play 2, is either intentional personal or flagrant personal. I'll side with flagrant because I can't imagine keeping somebody around who steps on an opponent intentionally.

It can't be a T (if the ball is live), because the T is for teammates climbing on or lifting. A2 and B1 are not teammates.

[TimTaylor]

Originally Posted by sseltser

Play 1, I agree T on A2. A1 didn't do anything to penalize.

Play 2, is either intentional personal or flagrant personal. I'll side with flagrant because I can't imagine keeping somebody around who steps on an opponent intentionally.

It can't be a T (if the ball is live), because the T is for teammates climbing on or lifting. A2 and B1 are not teammates.

Good catch! I agree.....

[Ignats75]

I have become very intolerant of player behavior that is unsporting. I possess no shyness about wacking the little rat*******s when they start with the complaining about calls. I usually give one loud verbal warning that is for all the players to hear and then its time to pull the trigger. We have some issues in athletics here in Northern Ohio with unsporting behavior too. And its not just basketball. A Varsity Football game was suspended and later declared a double forfeit because of a fight that started on the field between four players and expanded quickly throught the stadium. Pretty scary stuff for the officials.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Ignats75

I have become very intolerant of player behavior that is unsporting. I possess no shyness about wacking the little rat*******s when they start with the complaining about calls. I usually give one loud verbal warning that is for all the players to hear and then its time to pull the trigger. We have some issues in athletics here in Northern Ohio with unsporting behavior too. And its not just basketball. A Varsity Football game was suspended and later declared a double forfeit because of a fight that started on the field between four players and expanded quickly throught the stadium. Pretty scary stuff for the officials.

I've called 2 T's already this year for taunting in which a player stood over another player who was prone on the ground after a foul. I have a itchy trigger finger for imtimidation tactics. I can't stand it.