Haven't heard this one before

[representing]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'm hoping that either he's kidding or he misread the OP and thought it was a coach who said it.

ah hell, I did misread it. Did think it was a coach. My bad, thanks for correcting me.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by representing

ah hell, I did misread it. Did think it was a coach. My bad, thanks for correcting me.

That was my first assumption. LMAO!

[Mark Padgett]

Actually, some of the spectators were abusive toward the referees (including guys who worked games before me and next to me) and sometimes profanity was used (including the F word). Unfortunately, there's really no game management personnel at this facility to take care of stuff like this. It seems that, although this facility is non-profit, they don't want to take the chance of losing any paying spectators from returning and possibly have teams not sign up to play there in these "tournaments" because some kid's dad got tossed from a game.

I'm seriously considering not working there anymore when I balance the abuse we get vs. the relatively low pay scale there. It's too bad because I like to support community venues and programs like theirs - but there's enough games out there.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Actually, some of the spectators were abusive toward the referees (including guys who worked games before me and next to me) and sometimes profanity was used (including the F word). Unfortunately, there's really no game management personnel at this facility to take care of stuff like this. It seems that, although this facility is non-profit, they don't want to take the chance of losing any paying spectators from returning and possibly have teams not sign up to play there in these "tournaments" because some kid's dad got tossed from a game.

I'm seriously considering not working there anymore when I balance the abuse we get vs. the relatively low pay scale there. It's too bad because I like to support community venues and programs like theirs - but there's enough games out there.

I worked at a place in Indy for a really famous former IU player who owned a basketball academy. There were leagues and tournaments through out the year and I would occasionally work for him. Great guy, but he is a business man, and keeping these coaches and parents happy is part of the game. If it sucks that bad get out. They are the one's who will lose in the long run when it turns into a crime scene. You can't make someone act like an adult!

[Time2Ref]

Originally Posted by j51969

I worked at a place in Indy for a really famous former IU player who owned a basketball academy. There were leagues and tournaments through out the year and I would occasionally work for him. Great guy, but he is a business man, and keeping these coaches and parents happy is part of the game. If it sucks that bad get out. They are the one's who will lose in the long run when it turns into a crime scene. You can't make someone act like an adult!

Indy is a big place, but I think I know what you are talking about. Low pay, lots of abuse from coaches and parents, and no support what so ever from the management.

I threw a kid out after he pushed an airborne shooter HARD in the back with both hands. Even during the "handshake of teams", the coach was mouthing off about how bad I was.

Pregames consisted of officials telling me things like "I don't like to switch on fouls" and "It's OK to report fouls from the endline, it makes the game go quicker". With 3 minutes left in the fourth quarter, I saw my partner put his whistle inside his shirt. I guess that meant "Our job is done here, let's go home."

I couldn't get out of there fast enough. Never looked back.

I told the assigner that I would rather travel farther for less pay instead of working at that gym. He must of thought I said, don't bother getting me any more games anywhere.

[Mark Padgett]

Originally Posted by Time2Ref

With 3 minutes left in the fourth quarter, I saw my partner put his whistle inside his shirt.

Maybe he was just practicing the first rule of officiating.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Maybe he was just practicing the first rule of officiating.

Let's hope he waited 3 minutes at least before employing that rule.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Maybe he was just practicing the first rule of officiating.

Yesterday I got my December 2009 issue of the IAABO Sportorial magazine. I sat down in my recliner, after dinner, to read it over, and came across this article on page 16:

Tuning-Up Your “Pre-Game” For The New Season & “The First Rule of Officiating”

Officiating basketball today requires not only rules and mechanics
knowledge, but preparation for all the tasks you have before and after the
game – as well as when the ball goes up. For this reason, a successful
assignment begins with a thorough “pre-game.”

That’s where the “First Rule of Officiating” comes into play. At the
beginning of your pregame, the “First Rule of Officiating” will serve as
a guidepost to many of the more difficult situations that you may need to
handle during the game. Remembering the “First Rule” has prevented
many an untoward situation from degenerating into flagrant fouls and the
fallout that often ensues from such unpleasantries.

OK. What is the “First Rule of Officiating” already? Thought you’d
never ask. The “First Rule of Officiating” is ...

http://www.iaabo.org/December%202009.pdf

I stopped reading there. I was afraid to read the rest of the article. And I thought to myself, for everything that's good, and right, and pure, in the world, please don't let it be Mark Padgett's First Rule of Officiating.

[representing]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Actually, some of the spectators were abusive toward the referees (including guys who worked games before me and next to me) and sometimes profanity was used (including the F word). Unfortunately, there's really no game management personnel at this facility to take care of stuff like this. It seems that, although this facility is non-profit, they don't want to take the chance of losing any paying spectators from returning and possibly have teams not sign up to play there in these "tournaments" because some kid's dad got tossed from a game.

I'm seriously considering not working there anymore when I balance the abuse we get vs. the relatively low pay scale there. It's too bad because I like to support community venues and programs like theirs - but there's enough games out there.

talk with the person in charge of the facility and tell him/her your concerns. I understand what you're saying but that should not come at the cost of you feeling uncomfortable doing the game, or having any other officials getting the same abuse. If fans were getting that rowdy and I heard some of these types of comments being made, I would've tossed their asses out. There will be other teams that will want to join that tournament in the future I'm sure, one team loss isn't really a big loss.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by Mark Padgett

Actually, some of the spectators were abusive toward the referees (including guys who worked games before me and next to me) and sometimes profanity was used (including the F word). Unfortunately, there's really no game management personnel at this facility to take care of stuff like this. It seems that, although this facility is non-profit, they don't want to take the chance of losing any paying spectators from returning and possibly have teams not sign up to play there in these "tournaments" because some kid's dad got tossed from a game.

I'm seriously considering not working there anymore when I balance the abuse we get vs. the relatively low pay scale there. It's too bad because I like to support community venues and programs like theirs - but there's enough games out there.

I'd walk away and not look back. Send a letter to their director (or whoever is the leader of the program) explaining why, and move on.

That's what I'd do, but you're a big boy, so take it for what it's worth.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I'd walk away and not look back. Send a letter to their director (or whoever is the leader of the program) explaining why, and move on.

That's what I'd do, but you're a big boy, so take it for what it's worth.

And then puke on his shoes.

[tjones1]

Originally Posted by representing

ah hell, I did misread it. Did think it was a coach. My bad, thanks for correcting me.

It happens.

Even if a coach did say "You couldn't ref your way out of a paper bag" I wouldn't eject for just that... I would probably be laughing on the inside then whack the coach, but not eject.