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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 02:31am
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 08:00am
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
It's to help the coaches keep track.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 09:22am
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
Maybe it's the beginning of their 10-second count.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 09:31am
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How about the C (or trail in two man) keeping his arm extended signalling number of shots for free throws. After we hopefully communicated verbally and a quick signal, that should be sufficient.

Addendum......have seen leads do it also.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 12:29pm
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Ok, not a mechanic, but what's the deal with the thumbs up somewhat and pinky fingers stuck out as you're running down court. Seems germane to D111 women's officials. Almost like a hook 'em horns but vertical.

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Could be "we're in the bonus."

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How about the C (or trail in two man) keeping his arm extended signalling number of shots for free throws. After we hopefully communicated verbally and a quick signal, that should be sufficient.

Addendum......have seen leads do it also.
Lead shouldn't do it, but C needs to communicate with the table after s/he communicates with the L. It shouldn't be held throughout the entire FT, though.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 11:04pm
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Could be "we're in the bonus."



Lead shouldn't do it, but C needs to communicate with the table after s/he communicates with the L. It shouldn't be held throughout the entire FT, though.
Bob, no, not the bonus hook 'em horns signal, this is the constant pinky curled with thumbs up running down court. I was at Proviso today and a few guys used it, college officials.

Just not used to seeing it either at HS level or D1
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 09:39am
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 09:47am
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I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......
I believe I've heard that also.
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Do as I say, not as I do.....

A pet peeve of mine is when sr offiicals, trainers, mentors tell me to do one thing and then either they go out and do the opposite or allow their partners to do it.

Examples - Tweet, tweet, tweet - "Only blow the whistle once;" "You used a team control vice player control foul signal;" reporting to the table using two hands vs Fed one hand; hustling on the court; uniform - shiny shoes, allowing a player to play with a sleeve, not doing a good pre-game, joking or talking too much with with coaches, "When there's a crash, you always must call something;" rarely calling a charge; etc.

I try to be by the book, learn from my mistakes, take what others say and process it - and use what's best. But, don't gig me and then do whatever it is you want to do......

My $.02 and off my soap box.
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 10:34am
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A pet peeve of mine is when sr offiicals, trainers, mentors tell me to do one thing and then either they go out and do the opposite or allow their partners to do it.

Examples - Tweet, tweet, tweet - "Only blow the whistle once;" "You used a team control vice player control foul signal;" reporting to the table using two hands vs Fed one hand; hustling on the court; uniform - shiny shoes, allowing a player to play with a sleeve, not doing a good pre-game, joking or talking too much with with coaches, "When there's a crash, you always must call something;" rarely calling a charge; etc.

I try to be by the book, learn from my mistakes, take what others say and process it - and use what's best. But, don't gig me and then do whatever it is you want to do......

My $.02 and off my soap box.
We have an assignor here who uses the cliche, do as I say, not as I do. I can appreciate that. As you mentioned, just process the comments and apply it to your game.

Forgot the multiple whistle toots..........
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Old Mon Dec 28, 2009, 10:33am
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I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......
Or it's a signal to reset the shot clock.
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
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It's to help the coaches keep track.
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I see that one usually after there's a fair amount of contact before the defensive team gets the rebound. I think the idea is that it supposed to show that nobody gained any advantage with the contact and just keep on a-playing. Iow it's basically a message being sent to the other team's coach and maybe to some players on the floor who might want to complain about being fouled. Nothing there...let's move on.

That's my take on it anyhow......
Same observation, same conclusion.
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What is up with the mechanic I see on TV all the time (NCAA Men's games) where the lead official points the other direction after the defensive team gains control of a rebound. Is this a 3rd grade game where we need to remind the players which direction they are going?
Or, it's the signal I use in my "junior varsity" Catholic middle school games to remind the players that they aren't allowed to press unless it's the fourth period, and there is a ten point or less differential. I'm not an NCAA official, but I'm sure that they have the same no press rule at that level as well.
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