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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 10:51am
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The arrow was going the other way. So he loses the shooting foul and the ball. I not saying what I did was correct. I know is wasn't. Either we correct the mistake and go with the arrow. Or I let him eat it. In hind site I should have went with letting him eat it.
I would have let him eat it, but that all depends on how the other official is.

If I'm officiating with a rookie, and he makes a mistake, I simply just walk to him, tell him that he simply messed up, and then I'll go to the coaches and take the heat from them instead of the rookie.

If I'm officiating with an official that has been around for a while, and we get along, I'd talk with him.

Now if it's a stubborn, I'm-better-than-anyone kind of official, like who I was with last saturday for my buzzer shot before halftime situation, then I'd just let them eat it and walk away. If coaches ask me, I'll just simply say "Ask him/her, I didn't blow the whistle".
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 11:06am
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If I'm officiating with a rookie, and he makes a mistake, I simply just walk to him, tell him that he simply messed up, and then I'll go to the coaches and take the heat from them instead of the rookie.
I'm not sure I care for that approach on a call that is simply poor judgment.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 11:10am
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I'm not sure I care for that approach on a call that is simply poor judgment.
I just show a little compassion. I know when I was a rookie I've made the same mistakes that I'm seeing rookies do today. Don't you remember when you first started, how nervous you were about your first few days and such? Gotta be willing to help out as long as they want to be helped out.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 11:28am
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I just show a little compassion.
No you're not, you're tossing your partner under the bus and then backing it up over him a few times.

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Don't you remember when you first started, how nervous you were about your first few days and such?
I do actually...that would've been back in mid November of this year. I certainly hope a partner doesn't do that to me on a play they've deemed I have applied bad judgment.

When I started umpiring baseball 13 years ago, none of the veterans ever did that to me when I did kick a call (and I did). I've never done that to a rookie, it doesn't help him learn. It only undermines him.

I understand you think you're doing the right thing, but I simply cannot agree that it is the proper way to handle a situation like this.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 11:08am
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If I'm officiating with a rookie, and he makes a mistake, I simply just walk to him, tell him that he simply messed up, and then I'll go to the coaches and take the heat from them instead of the rookie.
This is awful. Talk about arrogant...
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 11:15am
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I would have let him eat it, but that all depends on how the other official is.

If I'm officiating with a rookie, and he makes a mistake, I simply just walk to him, tell him that he simply messed up, and then I'll go to the coaches and take the heat from them instead of the rookie.
If I'm officiating with an official that has been around for a while, and we get along, I'd talk with him.

Now if it's a stubborn, I'm-better-than-anyone kind of official, like who I was with last saturday for my buzzer shot before halftime situation, then I'd just let them eat it and walk away. If coaches ask me, I'll just simply say "Ask him/her, I didn't blow the whistle".
1. You realize that by doing this, you've thrown your partner under the bus, right? You've just let the coach know he's a rookie and/or you don't trust him. Way to go, partner.

2. When my partners call a foul in front of me, I assume they saw something I didn't and let it go. If I disagree with the call, I'll talk to him later.

3. Good grief.
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Old Fri Dec 18, 2009, 12:03pm
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1. You realize that by doing this, you've thrown your partner under the bus, right? You've just let the coach know he's a rookie and/or you don't trust him. Way to go, partner.

2. When my partners call a foul in front of me, I assume they saw something I didn't and let it go. If I disagree with the call, I'll talk to him later.

3. Good grief.
So what does the "representing stand for?" I highly doubt it's officiating the game of basketball. Many of your reponses are ridiculous and mirror someone who enjoys the authority. I see you as a young (and to me that would be under 35) male starved for the admiration of others.
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So what does the "representing stand for?" I highly doubt it's officiating the game of basketball. Many of your reponses are ridiculous and mirror someone who enjoys the authority. I see you as a young (and to me that would be under 35) male starved for the admiration of others.
Pulling out my best Deniro (which is bad), "You talking to me?"
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Pulling out my best Deniro (which is bad), "You talking to me?"
No the Mr "Representing"
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