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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 04:13pm
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In FIBA, an unsporting foul occurs when you disregard the spirit of the game, here the defender clearly had no intentions of playing the ball, he ran the shooter, clear and simple. In FIBA this is not called intentional but unsportwmqn like. I had a very similar situation just last night, called the US followed by the T. I called yet another US during the same game when player who was on a clear break was yelled at by the defender during the shot, US and must be called. A warning may be given if the ball scored but not if it missed
the penalty here is stiff, 2 for the T, 2 for the US and then white gets the ball, possible 7 pt play ( if a 3 is made) or 8 if fouled while making a 3
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 04:35pm
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Going back to the play, it is clear to me this is a flagrant foul. I'm sure the referee on the floor would have caught this as he was right there, but in the video I had to watch this a few times.

Look at the defensive player going into the shooter. It doesn't look like he went up to block the ball, albeit the hand going up to look like he's making a legit attempt to block. It looks like he used excessive force to go into the torso of the player intentionally to injury or take out the player, and then watch where his arm went. It went down towards the head and shoulder, obviously looking like he wanted to hit the shooter with his arm. I'm bringing this video up with our chapter's rule's interpreter and ask him what he thinks.

Yes, I know there are no replays in high school sports, and that you have to call it as you see it. First time watching this video before making it a thread on here, I immediately thought "wow, that was pretty flagrant" and if i were the ref, I would have ejected that player.

My theory is that something must have happened on the other end of the court before it came to this part, because of the yelling coach, the almost immediate Technical given to that coach and then this shooting foul occurring. But then again, we are only seeing a few seconds of that whole game so I can't say for sure that this is what happened up to this point.
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Old Thu Dec 17, 2009, 05:38pm
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In FIBA, an unsporting foul occurs when you disregard the spirit of the game, here the defender clearly had no intentions of playing the ball, he ran the shooter, clear and simple. In FIBA this is not called intentional but unsportwmqn like. I had a very similar situation just last night, called the US followed by the T. I called yet another US during the same game when player who was on a clear break was yelled at by the defender during the shot, US and must be called. A warning may be given if the ball scored but not if it missed
the penalty here is stiff, 2 for the T, 2 for the US and then white gets the ball, possible 7 pt play ( if a 3 is made) or 8 if fouled while making a 3
jallen,

You may want to check the FIBA rule book (Rule 6 - Art 36.1.4 bullet 3, see below) regarding Unsportmanlike Fouls and the clear path foul. You cannot call an Unsportmanlike Foul when contact does not occur. Yelling at a player could be a Technical Foul for an unsportmanlike act, but IMHO an Unsportsmanlike Foul is the not correct call in your play hilighted in red.

FIBA Rule 6 - Art 36.1.4 bullet 3
If a defensive player causes contact with an opponent from behind or laterally in an attempt to stop a fast break and there is no opponent between the offensive player and the opponents’ basket, then the contact shall be judged to be unsportsmanlike.

In the OP...

Definately Unsportmanlike at the very least, more than likely should be a Disqualifying Foul (FIBA = same as Flagrant). I see no issue with the Technical Foul either as that was the 1st whistle.

Last edited by Ref_in_Alberta; Fri Dec 18, 2009 at 12:43pm.
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