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Old Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:38pm
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Fouling on 3-pt. Attempts

A1, in the process of shooting a 3-pt. shot is fouled by B2. The shot attempt is successful. Accoding to the case play listed in "Officiating Basketball", A1 is then going to shoot 2 Free throws.

How often does something like this happen?

I know the ruling is in process of shooting a 3-pt. shot that's missed, that 3 free throws are awarded, but hadn't until now heard of 2 free throws being allowed after a 3-pt. attempt was successful after being fouled.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:46pm
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Only if the foul was rule intentional.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:50pm
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How old is that book you are reading?
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 12:02am
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How old is that book you are reading?
The book has a copyright/publish date of 2005.

I just reread the case, the headline for the case says "Making the call on an intentional foul".

It's just something I hadn't heard of or seen before, so was wanting some clarification.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 12:17am
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Here's how the case is stated in the book:
A Centralia player is driving in for a fast-break layup & is intentionally fouled while shooting. The ball goes in. What is your call?

What would your call be if the shooter was intentionally fouled in the following situations?

1. The 2-pt. attempt did not go in.
2. The shooter is fouled in the act of shooting a successful 3-pt. attempt.
3. The shooter is fouled in the act of shooting an unsuccessful 3-pt. attempt.


Here's how the ruling us stated in the book:
The basket counts & the Centralia player who was fouled receives 2 free throws for the intentional foul. After the free throws, Centralia gets the ball at the OOB spot nearest the foul.

If either the 2-pt. or 3-pt. attempt are unsuccessful, the shooter gets the appropriate number of shots-2 for the 2-pt. attempt, 3 for the 3-pt. attempt-& Centralia gets the ball at the OOB spot nearest the foul. If a 3-pt. attempt goes in, the shot counts, the player gets 2 free throws & Centralia gets the ball at the OOB spot nearest the foul.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 12:22am
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Only if the foul was rule intentional.
Just for completeness, also if the foul was flagrant.

chseagle, the case play you've posted is correct.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 12:35am
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For an intentional foul, there will always be at least two free throws. If the three point shot is not successful, there would be three. Plus the ball at the spot nearest the foul.
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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 08:43am
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The book has a copyright/publish date of 2005.

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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 07:36am
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Another way to end up with 2 free throws: shooter returns to floor, is then fouled, and his team is in the double bonus.
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Old Mon Dec 14, 2009, 11:51pm
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A1, in the process of shooting a 3-pt. shot is fouled by B2. The shot attempt is successful. Accoding to the case play listed in "Officiating Basketball", A1 is then going to shoot 2 Free throws.

How often does something like this happen?

I know the ruling is in process of shooting a 3-pt. shot that's missed, that 3 free throws are awarded, but hadn't until now heard of 2 free throws being allowed after a 3-pt. attempt was successful after being fouled.
How would you get 2 shots? The only way you could get two shots on a 3 point shot is if the airborne shooter has returned to the floor and is then fouled while the team is in the double bonus. Or if this was an intentional foul situation. But if the foul is apart of the shot attempt, it has to be 1 shot.

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Old Tue Dec 15, 2009, 09:28pm
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A1, in the process of shooting a 3-pt. shot is fouled by B2. The shot attempt is successful. Accoding to the case play listed in "Officiating Basketball", A1 is then going to shoot 2 Free throws.

How often does something like this happen?

I know the ruling is in process of shooting a 3-pt. shot that's missed, that 3 free throws are awarded, but hadn't until now heard of 2 free throws being allowed after a 3-pt. attempt was successful after being fouled.
But was his shirt tucked in?
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 08:28pm
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But was his shirt tucked in?
I would have no idea if shirt was tucked in or not, the case play didn't say LMAO.

Anywho, isn't that up to the floor officials to let the player know about the jersey being untucked?

Anymore I only mention it if the person's subbing in, which is rare since they're tucking it in while waiting.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 11:19pm
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I would have no idea if shirt was tucked in or not, the case play didn't say LMAO.

Anywho, isn't that up to the floor officials to let the player know about the jersey being untucked?

Anymore I only mention it if the person's subbing in, which is rare since they're tucking it in while waiting.
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I had a similar situation last year for a Girls' C-Squad game, only it was metal bobbie pins & butterfly clips in the hair. She went through warmups and nothing was said. It wasn't till she came to the table to sub-in, that I noticed it, buzzed the floor officials about it & they gave the coach a warning about not following uniform rules/regulations.
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Actually, Most, if not all, the floor officials I've worked with have appreciated the fact that I've kept myself up to date on uniform regulations & catching things that wouldn't of been caught otherwise.

I've done the same thing during dead ball situations where a player is on the floor with the jersey untucked.
So which is it?

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Had one last night.....

FB game last night. V up by two. 2.7 secs left in the half. V inbounding the ball on the endline after made basket. I am new L. Only two V and H players in the backcourt (to include inbounder). I move downcourt to cover my area/players.

Ball inbounded to V2 who takes a few dribbles and heaves a shot from the backcourt around the foul line extended. TWEEEET! Buzzer. Me.

Partner called a foul on a three-point shot for V. H coach goes nuts - at his player for being stupid. Partner said H player ran right into shooter.

Amazingly, the V player made all three shots. V eventually won by six.......

Never had a three-point foul called that far away before.
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Old Wed Dec 16, 2009, 09:29am
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FB game last night. V up by two. 2.7 secs left in the half. V inbounding the ball on the endline after made basket. I am new L. Only two V and H players in the backcourt (to include inbounder). I move downcourt to cover my area/players.

Ball inbounded to V2 who takes a few dribbles and heaves a shot from the backcourt around the foul line extended. TWEEEET! Buzzer. Me.

Partner called a foul on a three-point shot for V. H coach goes nuts - at his player for being stupid. Partner said H player ran right into shooter.

Amazingly, the V player made all three shots. V eventually won by six.......

Never had a three-point foul called that far away before.
I've called one before. 2/3's of the length of the court, defender thought he could get a free whack at the shooter because of the situation.
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