30-second time-out: Teams/Players standing

[tjones1]

I may be making MTD Sr. to go dig in the vault; however, I don't think it's too far back...maybe not.

Anyways, I was wondering when they changed (if they did) 5-12-5.

In an interp from 2001-2002 it states the following:
SITUATION 11: Each team and the official scorer have been notified that Team A has called a 30-second timeout. Team A decides to sit down on its bench. RULING: Incorrect procedure. The official should first inform the coach that his/her team is to remain standing during a 30-second timeout. If the coach refuses to adhere to the officials’ request, an unsporting technical shall be assessed. (5-12-5)

Currently, 5-12-5 reads:
Players shall remain standing within the confines of the bench area during a 30-second time-out.

Therefore, could someone please tell me when they changed it from the team having to remain standing to just the players?

[rockyroad]

Interesting. Nice catch, TJ.

To add to it - was at a tournament watching my HS sons play (Varsity tournament). Coach requests a 30 sec. t.o., and kids on the bench stand to meet the players coming towards the bench. Official sprints over there and tells them they have to stay seated - ONLY the players on the court when the 30 was called are allowed to stand.

Geesh.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

interesting. Nice catch, tj.

To add to it - was at a tournament watching my hs sons play (varsity tournament). Coach requests a 30 sec. T.o., and kids on the bench stand to meet the players coming towards the bench. Official sprints over there and tells them they have to stay seated - only the players on the court when the 30 was called are allowed to stand.

Geesh.

ooo

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

ooo

Peeve alert!

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Coach requests a 30 sec. t.o., and kids on the bench stand to meet the players coming towards the bench. Official sprints over there and tells them they have to stay seated - ONLY the players on the court when the 30 was called are allowed to stand.

We, as a state, seemed to be confused about this a few years ago. Different interpretations from different local interpreters. State interpreter finally contacted the NFHS and we cleared the whole thing up. All are allowed to stand.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Peeve alert!

"Overtime": Mark Padgett
"Jump Balls": BillyMac
"Baseline": ???
"Call" (Timeout): ???
"Overly Officious Official": mbyron
Who's our correct spelling and grammar guy?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Who's our correct spelling and grammar guy?

At least you didn't write "whose"...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbyron

At least you didn't write "whose"

I'm pretty good at whose or who's; it's or its; accept or except; than or then; and two, too, or to. I have a problem with there, they're, or their; and especially your and you're.

I actually spelled grammar incorrectly in my first draft. Thank God for that little check mark with ABC.

[26 Year Gap]

Originally Posted by mbyron

At least you didn't write "whose"...

Oh, don't be so annoying!

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Peeve alert!

I don't normally use the term, but I think enforcing non-existent rules qualifies here.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I don't normally use the term, but I think enforcing non-existent rules qualifies here.

Oh I have no problem calling officials officious. My peeve is the idea of "overly officious," as if one's aim were to be just officious enough.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Oh I have no problem calling officials officious. My peeve is the idea of "overly officious," as if one's aim were to be just officious enough.

Gotcha, it's the terminology.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I may be making MTD Sr. to go dig in the vault; however, I don't think it's too far back...maybe not.

Anyways, I was wondering when they changed (if they did) 5-12-5.

In an interp from 2001-2002 it states the following:
SITUATION 11: Each team and the official scorer have been notified that Team A has called a 30-second timeout. Team A decides to sit down on its bench. RULING: Incorrect procedure. The official should first inform the coach that his/her team is to remain standing during a 30-second timeout. If the coach refuses to adhere to the officials’ request, an unsporting technical shall be assessed. (5-12-5)

Currently, 5-12-5 reads:
Players shall remain standing within the confines of the bench area during a 30-second time-out.

Therefore, could someone please tell me when they changed it from the team having to remain standing to just the players?

Let us go back in time to The Ancient Days when there were only full timeouts. There were head coaches that required the substitutes to stand while the players in the game sat during the timeout and there were head coaches that required everybody to stand during a timeout. That mentality still is applied to full timeouts today.

Thirty (30) second timeouts are a different animal. The idea (both the NFHS, especially the NFHS, and the NCAA) behind thirty second timeouts is that it is to be used as a short teaching timeout. Meaning that most head coaches are using the thirty second timeout to address the players on the court not neccessarily the substitutes. What is important to remember is that the players on the court must remain standing during a thirty second timeout and we do not care whether the substitutes sit or stand.

MTD, Sr.