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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 06:56am
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How I saw the play occur, the home player was in the air going for the rebound, when the visiting player made physical contact by pushing/shoving the home player OOB & into a padded wall. When the home player hit the padded wall, a loud thud was heard throughout the gym.

When the home player was finally mobile, & assisted to the bench by the HC, play continued on as normal from the POI, no fouls were assessed for the contact/pushing/shoving.
Why did you not call the foul?

You seem to be suffering from a guilty conscience more than anything. What do you expect people here to tell you? You seem to think you have some sort of responsibility for determining whether medical attention was necessary for this girl. So why didn't you do something? What is the answer you need to hear?
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 07:04am
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CHS - I'm with Smitty. I'm not sure what you want us to say/do.

I'll either call the foul or not. I'll clear the floor and send the players to their benches. I'll let the team and game mgt attend to the player. If they think EMS or an ambulance is needed, their call. If I think the player was unconscious I will inform coach of the rule. Clear the player off the floor by whatever means the team/medical feel is required. Secure a replacement player and get the game moving.

I am not taking charge of any medical situation nor giving advice. I do not play a doctor on tv and I did not sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night!
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 07:06am
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Why did you not call the foul?

You seem to be suffering from a guilty conscience more than anything. What do you expect people here to tell you? You seem to think you have some sort of responsibility for determining whether medical attention was necessary for this girl. So why didn't you do something? What is the answer you need to hear?
I believe the OP is not an official.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 07:10am
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I believe the OP is not an official.
Well that explains why they didn't call the foul.

I still don't know what they expect anyone here to say. The OP should be asking the school officials why they didn't call EMS.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 07:21am
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The OP is NOT an official. He works the table and is very curious, not in a bad way (IMO), as to what officials do, why they do it, etc.

My rub with the OP, and I get the feeling from some of the other posters too (although obviously I don't speak for them) is CHS doesn't seem to like or accept the answers he hears and continues question, pick, disagree, etc. Never seens satisfied with what is said.

Oh well, it's a free world and has made for some interesting banter from a slightly different angle. My $.02.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 02:40pm
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I was asking for thoughts &/or opinions as I was figuring some on here might have coached before becoming officials.

Basically I was asking, if you were in the coach's shoes, how would you have handled the incident?

If you've had previous playing experience where something like this happened, what would you, from a player's POV, have wanted the coach to do?

The incident happened Tuesday night, I've giving the coach the benefit of the doubt that medical attention will be sought (although I am thinking it should of happened immediately afterwards). When I go in on Saturday to work crowd control for the Wrestling Invite & Scoreboad/Timer/Shot Clock/Crowd Control for the Boys' Basketball Games, I'll be asking the AD if the procedures are being followed as how I understand things & get his input as well.
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 02:43pm
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I was asking for thoughts &/or opinions as I was figuring some on here might have coached before becoming officials.

Basically I was asking, if you were in the coach's shoes, how would you have handled the incident?

If you've had previous playing experience where something like this happened, what would you, from a player's POV, have wanted the coach to do?

The incident happened Tuesday night, I've giving the coach the benefit of the doubt that medical attention will be sought (although I am thinking it should of happened immediately afterwards). When I go in on Saturday to work crowd control for the Wrestling Invite & Scoreboad/Timer/Shot Clock/Crowd Control for the Boys' Basketball Games, I'll be asking the AD if the procedures are being followed as how I understand things & get his input as well.
I'm not convinced that was your motive when you originally posted - I think you changed your perspective once you got a bunch of answers you didn't want to hear. If you wanted a coach's perspective, why didn't you just post the question in a coach's forum?

I am again wondering what answer would satisfy you?
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Old Fri Dec 11, 2009, 03:03pm
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I'm not convinced that was your motive when you originally posted - I think you changed your perspective once you got a bunch of answers you didn't want to hear. If you wanted a coach's perspective, why didn't you just post the question in a coach's forum?

I am again wondering what answer would satisfy you?
Am just trying to get thoughts &/or opinions on how different people would of handled the situation, if they were in the HC's, player's, &/or parents' shoes.

I'm a bit angered at the HC for how he handled the incident, but at the same time the benefit of the doubt should be given as I know he's been HC for at least 20 years. It's because of giving the HC the benefit of the doubt, that I haven't gone up to the school, continually questioning the HC about how he handled the situation.

I realize after rereading my original posting that I did leave out some stuff, that I added in later postings. That my reasoning for asking was not being clearly identified.
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