Your call?

[chartrusepengui]

who reached the spot legally first? answer that and you have your answer.

time and distance are not required when guarding an individual with the ball - so why would you give B1 special consideration even if A did "cut them off". A still legally reached that spot ahead of B and is entitled to it without being knocked to the floor.

[j51969]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

who reached the spot legally first? answer that and you have your answer.

time and distance are not required when guarding an individual with the ball - so why would you give B1 special consideration even if A did "cut them off". A still legally reached that spot ahead of B and is entitled to it without being knocked to the floor.

Consider this: A1 an B1 collide. B1 never had a legal guarding position because they were guarding A2 near by. Why would it make a difference if B1 was actively engaged with another player, or just standing there. Considering the contact resulted on both you may have nothing. Basketball is a contact sport not a collision sport. This certainly happens more often in the girls game than boys.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by j51969

Consider this: A1 an B1 collide. B1 never had a legal guarding position because they were guarding A2 near by. Why would it make a difference if B1 was actively engaged with another player, or just standing there. Considering the contact resulted on both you may have nothing. Basketball is a contact sport not a collision sport. This certainly happens more often in the girls game than boys.

This is not the play (see above).

A1 dribbles into the path of where B1 appeared to be running. A1 stops (may have even initiated the contact - (much like offensive player driving to the basket) B1 can't stop and hits A1 ... you have to have a call. Do you call PC on A1 or push on B1?

I know you have all seen this play where the point guard dribbles into the defensive player while running up the floor. But, in this case there is a crash!

[Adam]

If A1 has time to stop before contact, then B1 has time to change course. The onus is on the defense here, IMO.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

This is not the play (see above).

A1 dribbles into the path of where B1 appeared to be running. A1 stops (may have even initiated the contact - (much like offensive player driving to the basket) B1 can't stop and hits A1 ... you have to have a call. Do you call PC on A1 or push on B1?

I know you have all seen this play where the point guard dribbles into the defensive player while running up the floor. But, in this case there is a crash!

I will ask again. WHO GOT TO THE SPOT OF THE COLLISION FIRST?

I will ask a new question: what is your agenda? Are you trying to win a bet with someone? You seemed determined to get a particular answer from the forum.

[Johnny Ringo]

No agenda. Just trying to get an answer. Foul on A1 of B1

Thanks snaqwells, your reasoning was good.

Just see the play and make a call. Is there not enough info for most of you?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Just see the play and make a call. Is there not enough info for most of you?

No...I would like to know who got the spot of the collision first.

Without that it's a HTBT for me.

[RookieDude]

...OK, I'll humor you...PUSH on B1! And I'd sell it quite nicely thank-you very much.

[Johnny Ringo]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

No...I would like to know who got the spot of the collision first.

Without that it's a HTBT for me.

Obviously A1 got there first and then contact.

I can't imagine you all have never seen this or are having that hard of a time picturing.

But, let me change try - A1 is dribbling slightly faster than B1 is running - side-by-side. A1 dribbls into the path slightly ahead - creating contact and they both go down. Who do you call the foul on?

I have no bet or agenda - just seeking what you all would do. So, no need for goofy remarks. THANKS!

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo

Just see the play and make a call.

Flagrant foul on A1 and B1, they're both ejected and so are the coaches and both teams. We all go home.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by chartrusepengui

who reached the spot legally first? answer that and you have your answer.

time and distance are not required when guarding an individual with the ball - so why would you give B1 special consideration even if A did "cut them off". A still legally reached that spot ahead of B and is entitled to it without being knocked to the floor.

You're right, if A1 gets there first. I'm seeing the same play tomegun sees; neither player is there first and A1 clearly initiated the contact by veering into B1's path.

[chartrusepengui]

I guess I was envisioning that A1 was at the spot first and then banged from behind by B1