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Johnny Ringo Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:42pm

Your call?
 
Player A1 dribbling down the floor.

Player B1 (defense) running down the floor.

A1 dribbles into the path of B1 and both bodies hit the floor.

What do you have?

fiasco Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:43pm

Htbt



*ETA: Weird....the board software isn't allowing me to post the above in all caps...

Johnny Ringo Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:52pm

you can't picture it with the info I gave you?

Scratch85 Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 641474)

What do you have?

The classic answer; A girls JV game. :D

Scratch85 Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:57pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Ringo (Post 641474)
Player A1 dribbling down the floor.

Player B1 (defense) running down the floor.

A1 dribbles into the path of B1 and both bodies hit the floor.

What do you have?

Your sitch sounds like A1 was at the spot before B1. From what I am reading, I would likely have a "push" foul on B1.

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 05:59pm

A1 needs to give B1 time and distance before setting a screen. I used to get away with this a lot as a point guard.

Scratch85 Thu Dec 10, 2009 06:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641482)
A1 needs to give B1 time and distance before setting a screen. I used to get away with this a lot as a point guard.

When a dribbler in his/her progress is moving in a straight-line path, he/she may not be crowded out of that path. An opponent must obtain a legal defensive position in that path to put the responsibility of contact onto the dribbler.

Mark Padgett Thu Dec 10, 2009 06:10pm

Let me guess. The coach wanted an over-the-back reaching foul. :rolleyes:

Adam Thu Dec 10, 2009 06:14pm

10.6.11
If B1 established his path and A1 altered to get in the way and draw contact, time and distance are relevant.

Scratch85 Thu Dec 10, 2009 06:16pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 641489)
10.6.11
If B1 established his path and A1 altered to get in the way and draw contact, time and distance are relevant.

I guess fiasco is right, HTBT.

We have both possibilities covered. So, Johnny Ringo, how did it occur?

Johnny Ringo Thu Dec 10, 2009 07:45pm

Think of it like this:

(Case 1) A1 dribbling the ball straight down the floor.

B1 (defense) running 2-3 fet to the left side of A1.

A1 gets to the division line and creates a path that is angled to the basket and collides with B1 who continued on a straight line?

(Case 2) Or A1 dribbles into the path or body of B1, who is still running in a straight path?

I assume most will always have a foul on B1 in case (1) and possibly want to call offensive foul on A1 in case (2)

Ignats75 Thu Dec 10, 2009 07:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scratch85 (Post 641480)
The classic answer; A girls JV game. :D

LOL you saw my game last night

BillyMac Thu Dec 10, 2009 08:35pm

10-6-6 ...
 
Contact caused by a defensive player who approaches from behind is pushing.

Back In The Saddle Fri Dec 11, 2009 01:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 641521)
Contact caused by a defensive player who approaches from behind is pushing.

+1 I'm having a really, really hard time buying this as a screen.

Johnny Ringo Fri Dec 11, 2009 04:29am

Lets try this: What do you have if the dribbler - dribbles into the defensive player while the defensive player and the dribbler are at close to or full speed at mid-court? Both bodies hit the floor.


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