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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:43pm
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Different Color Uniform Jersey

A1 is warming up with her team and is wearing a distinctively different shade of green jersey than the rest of team A. When questioned, she says she forgot her shirt, and is borrowing a JV shirt until her mother gets there with hers. At the 12:00 minute before game mark, I go to the table and sure enough, she is marked off as a starter.

I tell both coaches that she cannot play with the different shade shirt, but if she needs to be replaced as a starter after the 10:00 minute mark, there is no penalty for that (if the shirt comes before game time, then we are good to go).

I thought I handled it right, neither coach objected, the shirt showed up 3 minutes into the game, she changed in the locker room, her coach called a TO and got her in the game.

Question: Should she have been allowed to play with a noticebaly different shade shirt? Otherwise was this handled correctly?
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:46pm
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Referencing a different thread - was her bra the color of the standard jersey? If so, you could have let her play in her bra. I won't even get into what her number would then be.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:48pm
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This has been discussed previously and my assumption was the same as yours; the player wouldn't be permitted to play. I recall being shown to be mistaken. I'll have to look for that discussion as to why I was wrong.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:52pm
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Not knowing how different the colors were, this seems overly officious to me. If it's the same color (I assume they are wearing their dark jerseys), what's the problem?
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:53pm
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This has been discussed previously and my assumption was the same as yours; the player wouldn't be permitted to play. I recall being shown to be mistaken. I'll have to look for that discussion as to why I was wrong.

Because both coaches agreed it was alright.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:56pm
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NFHS states:

3.4.1.a The torso of the jersey shall be the same single solid color for all team members.

I take that to mean the same shade (or reasonably the same, allowing for fading). Others take it to mean the same color of different shades.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:59pm
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We have lots of teams that will have a player or two wear JV jerseys during varsity games. We've been instructed that this is absolutely allowed (and I believe it is by rule, anyway).

I'm not stopping someone from playing because of a different shade of the same color.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 03:59pm
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I would not have kept her from playing as long as the general color was similar, and the number on both jerseys were the same. That is as long as it is not similar to the home team's jersey color (should be white). Too bad coach did not make her a non-starter.
As long as the uniforms are close to the same color, I'm letting her play.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:03pm
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I would not have kept her from playing as long as the general color was similar, and the number on both jerseys were the same. That is as long as it is not similar to the home team's jersey color (should be white). Too bad coach did not make her a non-starter.
As long as the uniforms are close to the same color, I'm letting her play.
If coach made her a non-starter and THEN the jersey shows up after the 10 minute mark, changing her back to a starter would result in a T.

Difference in shade was like the difference between a Packer and Jet jersey.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:06pm
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Difference in shade was like the difference between a Packer and Jet jersey.
It sounds as if both were definitely green, and there was going to be no confusion about that. I'd have let her play.

Again, that's how we interpret it here. You may have different requirements where you are.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:17pm
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Are they all green? Are they numbered properly? Nothing to see here people. Move along.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:40pm
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NFHS states:

3.4.1.a The torso of the jersey shall be the same single solid color for all team members.

I take that to mean the same shade (or reasonably the same, allowing for fading). Others take it to mean the same color of different shades.
But there's also the case where a jersey gets blood on it and all the team has is a JV jersey, or a (visiting) jersey borrowed from the home team. The direction is to let the player wear the replacement.

Not quite the same thing, but I think it's in the right direction.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:52pm
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Because both coaches agreed it was alright.
This is not much of a consideration.
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 04:59pm
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Because both coaches agreed it was alright.
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This is not much of a consideration.
Says who?
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Old Tue Dec 08, 2009, 05:02pm
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Says who?

Did I misunderstand?

A jersey is declared to be legal or not legal because the coaches agree?

This is not a consideration at all.
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