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stosh Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:43pm

Different Color Uniform Jersey
 
A1 is warming up with her team and is wearing a distinctively different shade of green jersey than the rest of team A. When questioned, she says she forgot her shirt, and is borrowing a JV shirt until her mother gets there with hers. At the 12:00 minute before game mark, I go to the table and sure enough, she is marked off as a starter.

I tell both coaches that she cannot play with the different shade shirt, but if she needs to be replaced as a starter after the 10:00 minute mark, there is no penalty for that (if the shirt comes before game time, then we are good to go).

I thought I handled it right, neither coach objected, the shirt showed up 3 minutes into the game, she changed in the locker room, her coach called a TO and got her in the game.

Question: Should she have been allowed to play with a noticebaly different shade shirt? Otherwise was this handled correctly?

Mark Padgett Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:46pm

Referencing a different thread - was her bra the color of the standard jersey? If so, you could have let her play in her bra. I won't even get into what her number would then be. :rolleyes:

buckrog64 Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:48pm

This has been discussed previously and my assumption was the same as yours; the player wouldn't be permitted to play. I recall being shown to be mistaken. I'll have to look for that discussion as to why I was wrong.

Smitty Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:52pm

Not knowing how different the colors were, this seems overly officious to me. If it's the same color (I assume they are wearing their dark jerseys), what's the problem?

Raymond Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckrog64 (Post 640744)
This has been discussed previously and my assumption was the same as yours; the player wouldn't be permitted to play. I recall being shown to be mistaken. I'll have to look for that discussion as to why I was wrong.


Because both coaches agreed it was alright.

stosh Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:56pm

NFHS states:

3.4.1.a The torso of the jersey shall be the same single solid color for all team members.

I take that to mean the same shade (or reasonably the same, allowing for fading). Others take it to mean the same color of different shades.

jdw3018 Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:59pm

We have lots of teams that will have a player or two wear JV jerseys during varsity games. We've been instructed that this is absolutely allowed (and I believe it is by rule, anyway).

I'm not stopping someone from playing because of a different shade of the same color.

TwoDot Tue Dec 08, 2009 03:59pm

I would not have kept her from playing as long as the general color was similar, and the number on both jerseys were the same. That is as long as it is not similar to the home team's jersey color (should be white). Too bad coach did not make her a non-starter.
As long as the uniforms are close to the same color, I'm letting her play.

stosh Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:03pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwoDot (Post 640752)
I would not have kept her from playing as long as the general color was similar, and the number on both jerseys were the same. That is as long as it is not similar to the home team's jersey color (should be white). Too bad coach did not make her a non-starter.
As long as the uniforms are close to the same color, I'm letting her play.

If coach made her a non-starter and THEN the jersey shows up after the 10 minute mark, changing her back to a starter would result in a T.

Difference in shade was like the difference between a Packer and Jet jersey.

jdw3018 Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:06pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stosh (Post 640758)
Difference in shade was like the difference between a Packer and Jet jersey.

It sounds as if both were definitely green, and there was going to be no confusion about that. I'd have let her play.

Again, that's how we interpret it here. You may have different requirements where you are.

Ignats75 Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:17pm

Are they all green? Are they numbered properly? Nothing to see here people. Move along.

bob jenkins Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:40pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by stosh (Post 640748)
NFHS states:

3.4.1.a The torso of the jersey shall be the same single solid color for all team members.

I take that to mean the same shade (or reasonably the same, allowing for fading). Others take it to mean the same color of different shades.

But there's also the case where a jersey gets blood on it and all the team has is a JV jersey, or a (visiting) jersey borrowed from the home team. The direction is to let the player wear the replacement.

Not quite the same thing, but I think it's in the right direction.

just another ref Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:52pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 640746)
Because both coaches agreed it was alright.

This is not much of a consideration.

Raymond Tue Dec 08, 2009 04:59pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 640746)
Because both coaches agreed it was alright.

Quote:

Originally Posted by just another ref (Post 640789)
This is not much of a consideration.

Says who?

just another ref Tue Dec 08, 2009 05:02pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 640794)
Says who?


Did I misunderstand?

A jersey is declared to be legal or not legal because the coaches agree?

This is not a consideration at all.


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